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From: kenner@vlsi1.ultra.nyu.edu (Richard Kenner)
To: iant@google.com
Cc: ebotcazou@adacore.com, gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org, matz@suse.de,
	        richard.guenther@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fix optimization regression in constant folder
Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 19:32:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <10710011934.AA24578@vlsi1.ultra.nyu.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3ve9q207p.fsf@localhost.localdomain>

> The rest of don't us really understand what the semantics of sizetypes
> are.  The only documentation is in tree.h, and it only says what
> sizetypes are, it doesn't say what semantics they should have.

Right, because nobody was thinking about these issues back when they
were created.

> In particular I don't understand why sizetypes are sign extended.  Why
> do we have negative sizetype values?

Think about virtual origins for arrays or similar such.  There are a
few cases that come up in Ada where DECL_FIELD_OFFSET (which must be
of sizetype) is a small negative value.

> And TYPE_OVERFLOW_WRAPS is not quite sufficient, since it does not
> permit canonicalizations.
> 
> TYPE_OVERFLOW_WRAPS seems clearly correct for sizetypes (if not, why
> not, and give us an example).

For the reason you just gave: it suppresses some optimizations.

> So it seems that we should do is separate TYPE_OVERFLOW_UNDEFINED into
> two different meanings:
> 
> 1) We can assume that computations in this type will never overflow,
>    but we should be careful not to introduce overflow where it was not
>    present.  (TYPE_OVERFLOW_UNDEFINED)
> 
> 2) We can assume that computations in this type will never overflow,
>    no matter what we do.  (TYPE_IGNORE_OVERFLOWS)
> 
> Then a few places which currently check TYPE_OVERFLOW_WRAPS can check
> TYPE_IGNORE_OVERFLOWS instead.

That would probably work.

> I really want to move toward a semantics for sizetypes which does not
> involve mysterious checks for TYPE_IS_SIZETYPE.  If we can't do that,
> we are going to keep breaking the way you want it to work.

I see it exactly the opposite way around: sizetype means "handle this
computations in the most efficient way possible" (like my EXACT_DIV_EXPR).
So any optimization conditionalized on an attribute of the type can simply
can "|| TYPE_IS_SIZETYPE".  But if we go the approach of defining flags in
a special way to deal with case and then get rid of TYPE_IS_SIZETYPE, we 
have to go through exactly the same problem as now if some other 
attributes are added to types that suppress only some optimizations.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-10-01 19:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 140+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-17 14:35 Eric Botcazou
2007-09-17 14:45 ` Richard Guenther
2007-09-17 14:56   ` Eric Botcazou
2007-09-17 15:13     ` Richard Guenther
2007-09-18 11:12       ` Eric Botcazou
2007-09-18 11:22         ` Richard Guenther
2007-09-18 13:17           ` Richard Kenner
2007-09-19 11:33           ` Eric Botcazou
2007-09-19 14:40             ` Richard Guenther
2007-09-19 14:50               ` Richard Kenner
2007-09-19 15:50               ` Eric Botcazou
2007-09-29 10:27               ` Eric Botcazou
2007-09-29 14:59                 ` Richard Guenther
2007-09-29 15:12                   ` Eric Botcazou
2007-09-29 15:38                     ` Richard Guenther
2007-09-29 17:46                       ` Richard Guenther
2007-09-29 18:43                         ` Eric Botcazou
2007-09-29 20:52                           ` Richard Guenther
2007-09-30 14:38                             ` Eric Botcazou
2007-09-30 16:01                               ` Eric Botcazou
2007-09-30 16:03                               ` Richard Guenther
2007-09-30 16:36                                 ` Eric Botcazou
2007-09-30 17:37                                   ` Richard Guenther
2007-09-30 18:53                                     ` Eric Botcazou
2007-09-30 17:59                                   ` Richard Kenner
2007-09-30 18:38                                     ` Richard Guenther
2007-09-30 21:16                                       ` Richard Kenner
2007-09-30 22:10                                       ` Eric Botcazou
     [not found]                                   ` <m3r6kf3gyx.fsf@localhost.localdomain>
     [not found]                                     ` <200710010127.59677.ebotcazou@adacore.com>
2007-10-01  0:10                                       ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-10-01  0:51                                         ` Richard Kenner
2007-10-01  1:54                                           ` Michael Matz
2007-10-01  2:53                                             ` Richard Kenner
2007-10-01  3:25                                               ` Michael Matz
2007-10-01  3:40                                                 ` Richard Kenner
2007-10-01  9:12                                                   ` Richard Guenther
2007-10-01 12:29                                                     ` Richard Kenner
2007-10-01 12:40                                                       ` Richard Guenther
2007-10-01 13:07                                                         ` Eric Botcazou
2007-10-01 13:15                                                         ` Richard Kenner
2007-10-01 14:15                                                           ` Richard Guenther
2007-10-01 14:23                                                             ` Richard Kenner
2007-10-01 14:29                                                               ` Richard Guenther
2007-10-01 14:35                                                                 ` Richard Kenner
2007-10-01 17:51                                                           ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-10-01 19:32                                                             ` Richard Kenner [this message]
2007-10-01 19:51                                                               ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-10-01 20:28                                                                 ` Richard Kenner
2007-10-02 13:58                                                                   ` Michael Matz
2007-10-03  6:41                                                             ` Eric Botcazou
2007-10-03  7:00                                                               ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-10-03  7:10                                                                 ` Eric Botcazou
2007-10-03 14:18                                                                   ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-10-03 15:53                                                                     ` Eric Botcazou
2007-10-04  5:20                                                                       ` Michael Matz
2007-10-10 17:31                                                   ` Mark Mitchell
2007-10-10 22:43                                                     ` Richard Kenner
2007-10-11  0:40                                                       ` Mark Mitchell
2007-10-11  1:02                                                         ` Richard Kenner
2007-10-11 15:06                                                     ` Michael Matz
2007-10-11 15:10                                                       ` Richard Guenther
2007-10-11 15:55                                                         ` Michael Matz
2007-10-11 15:57                                                           ` Richard Guenther
2007-10-11 16:02                                                             ` Richard Kenner
2007-10-11 15:59                                                           ` Richard Kenner
2007-10-11 16:02                                                             ` Richard Guenther
2007-10-11 16:08                                                               ` Richard Kenner
2007-10-11 16:14                                                                 ` Richard Guenther
2007-10-11 16:37                                                                   ` Richard Kenner
2007-10-11 16:44                                                                     ` Richard Guenther
2007-10-11 16:50                                                                       ` Richard Kenner
2007-10-11 15:32                                                       ` Richard Kenner
2007-10-11 16:03                                                         ` Michael Matz
2007-10-11 16:06                                                           ` Richard Guenther
2007-10-11 16:19                                                             ` Richard Kenner
2007-10-11 16:25                                                             ` Michael Matz
2007-10-11 16:12                                                           ` Richard Kenner
2007-10-11 16:38                                                             ` Michael Matz
2007-10-11 16:47                                                               ` Richard Kenner
2007-10-11 17:04                                                                 ` Michael Matz
2007-10-11 17:17                                                                   ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-10-11 18:41                                                                     ` Michael Matz
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     [not found]                                                                       ` <10710111850.AA27    912@vlsi1.ultra.nyu.edu>
     [not found]                                                                       ` <10710111850.AA27           912@vlsi1.ultra.nyu.edu>
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2007-10-11 18:45                                                                       ` Richard Kenner
2007-10-11 19:10                                                                         ` Michael Matz
2007-10-11 19:17                                                                           ` Richard Kenner
2007-10-11 19:30                                                                             ` Michael Matz
2007-10-11 20:06                                                                               ` Richard Kenner
2007-10-11 21:24                                                                             ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-10-12  2:36                                                                               ` Richard Kenner
2007-10-12  4:40                                                                                 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-10-12  4:56                                                                                   ` Mark Mitchell
2007-10-12 12:30                                                                                     ` Richard Kenner
2007-10-12 17:48                                                                                       ` Mark Mitchell
2007-10-12 18:08                                                                                         ` Richard Kenner
2007-10-12 18:37                                                                                           ` Mark Mitchell
2007-10-12 18:51                                                                                             ` Richard Kenner
2007-10-12 20:13                                                                                             ` Richard Guenther
2007-10-14 11:09                                                                                         ` Eric Botcazou
2007-10-12 11:42                                                                                   ` Richard Kenner
2007-10-14 10:31                                                                                   ` Eric Botcazou
2007-10-14 11:24                                                                                     ` Richard Guenther
2007-10-14 11:58                                                                                       ` Eric Botcazou
2007-10-14 12:16                                                                                       ` Richard Kenner
2007-10-14 13:29                                                                                         ` Richard Guenther
2007-10-15  2:12                                                                                           ` Richard Kenner
2007-10-15  7:33                                                                                             ` Michael Matz
2007-10-15 11:36                                                                                               ` Richard Kenner
2007-10-15 13:27                                                                                                 ` Richard Guenther
2007-10-15 13:28                                                                                                   ` Richard Kenner
2007-10-14 16:07                                                                                       ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-10-14 16:27                                                                                         ` Richard Guenther
2007-10-15  3:26                                                                                           ` Richard Kenner
2007-10-15  9:12                                                                                             ` Richard Guenther
2007-10-15 11:41                                                                                               ` Richard Kenner
2007-10-15 13:15                                                                                                 ` Richard Guenther
2007-10-15 13:17                                                                                                   ` Richard Kenner
2007-10-15  3:29                                                                                           ` Richard Kenner
2007-10-15  2:17                                                                                         ` Richard Kenner
2007-10-15  5:21                                                                                           ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-10-15 11:01                                                                                             ` Richard Kenner
2007-10-11 17:21                                                                   ` Richard Kenner
2007-10-11 16:16                                                           ` Richard Kenner
2007-10-11 16:51                                                             ` Michael Matz
2007-10-11 16:57                                                               ` Richard Kenner
2007-10-11 17:06                                                                 ` Richard Guenther
2007-10-11 17:24                                                                   ` Richard Kenner
2007-10-11 17:31                                                                 ` Michael Matz
2007-10-11 17:54                                                                   ` Richard Kenner
2007-10-12  8:20                                                                     ` Richard Guenther
2007-10-12 11:47                                                                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2007-10-12 12:44                                                                       ` Richard Kenner
2007-10-12 12:49                                                                         ` Richard Guenther
2007-10-11 15:57                                                       ` Mark Mitchell
2007-10-11 16:01                                                         ` Richard Kenner
2007-10-11 16:03                                                           ` Richard Guenther
2007-10-11 16:16                                                             ` Richard Kenner
2007-10-11 16:11                                                           ` Mark Mitchell
2007-10-11 16:29                                                             ` Richard Kenner
2007-10-01  6:07                                                 ` Eric Botcazou
2007-10-01  6:07                                         ` Eric Botcazou
2007-10-01  8:58                                     ` Richard Guenther

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