* [PATCH] web pages: add lots of info to testing/index.html
@ 2002-11-12 10:13 Janis Johnson
2002-11-12 11:35 ` Kelley Cook
2002-11-13 9:53 ` Gerald Pfeifer
0 siblings, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Janis Johnson @ 2002-11-12 10:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: gcc-patches
This patch moves a list of ideas for additional testing from the
beginners' section of the projects list to the testing page that Gerald
set up recently. It also includes in that new page the list of
applications that are used for release criteria, plus other apps for
which build and test guides are available. I'll also copy the build
and test guides from gcc.gnu.org/gcc-3.1 to gcc.gnu.org/testing; future
release criteria can reference those versions. Those guides aren't
shown here because they're already in the web pages. (Gerald, should
the existing copies be removed from gcc-3.1, with the links in
criteria.html updated?)
People who do regular testing are encouraged to describe their efforts
here, particularly if they're doing interesting things that other people
might like to do for other platforms.
Validated with http://validator.w3.org (although it doesn't like the
existing <verbatim> tag in beginner.html). If there are no objections
I'll check these in within a couple of days.
If the general web pages had a ChangeLog, here's what I'd use for this:
* projects/beginner.html (Bug patrol): Replace ideas for testing
with a link to the GCC Testing Efforts page.
* testing/index.html: Change the title, add lots of ideas about
how to pound on GCC, add table of apps tests.
* testing/testing-blitz.html: Copied from gcc-3.1.
* testing/testing-boost.html: Copied from gcc-3.1.
* testing/testing-ftensor.html: Copied from gcc-3.1.
* testing/testing-lapack.html: Copied from gcc-3.1.
* testing/testing-pooma.html: Copied from gcc-3.1.
* testing/testing-qt.html: Copied from gcc-3.1.
Janis
Index: projects/beginner.html
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvs/gcc/wwwdocs/htdocs/projects/beginner.html,v
retrieving revision 1.26
diff -u -p -r1.26 beginner.html
--- projects/beginner.html 30 Oct 2002 17:11:06 -0000 1.26
+++ projects/beginner.html 12 Nov 2002 17:47:43 -0000
@@ -92,31 +92,10 @@ same test" that can be checked mechanica
does that check, and run it against the entire test suite.</p>
</li>
-<li>Set up more autobuilders.
+<li>Perform additional GCC testing.
-<p>We already have an autobuilder by Geoff Keating (see <a
-href="http://people.redhat.com/geoffk/gcc-regression/">gcc-regression</a>),
-which nags people in e-mail when they break the tree.</p>
-
-<p>We'd like to have a similar setup for other platforms. At the
-least we should have one for each of the primary evaluation platforms
-listed in the <a href="../gcc-3.0/criteria.html">criteria for GCC
-3.0</a>. However, the more the better.</p>
-
-<p>It would be nice if at least one of these platforms were beefy
-enough that it could run with RTL consistency checks enabled. This
-slows the compiler down by an order of magnitude, but has found plenty
-of bugs in the past.</p>
-
-<p>In addition to the existing systems, you should look at the <a
-href="http://www.mozilla.org/tinderbox.html">Tinderbox</a> system
-developed for the Mozilla project.</p>
-
-<p>Kaveh Ghazi <<a
-href="mailto:ghazi@caip.rutgers.edu">ghazi@caip.rutgers.edu</a>>
-suggests that the autobuilders should keep track of regressions in the
-number of warnings, and bug patchers until they are fixed, just as
-they do for testsuite regressions now.</p>
+<p>See <a href="http://gcc.gnu.org/testing/">GCC Testing Efforts</a>
+for ideas and information about what's already being done.</p>
</li>
</ul>
Index: testing/index.html
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvs/gcc/wwwdocs/htdocs/testing/index.html,v
retrieving revision 1.4
diff -u -p -r1.4 index.html
--- testing/index.html 10 Nov 2002 20:33:11 -0000 1.4
+++ testing/index.html 12 Nov 2002 17:48:00 -0000
@@ -1,22 +1,119 @@
<html>
<head>
-<title>GCC Regression Testing</title>
+<title>GCC Testing Efforts</title>
</head>
<body>
-<h1>GCC Regression Testing</h1>
+<h1>GCC Testing Efforts</h1>
-<p>Ben Elliston operates a Tinderbox-style
-<a href="http://people.redhat.com/bje/tinderbox.html">build and regression
-testing system</a>.</p>
-
-<p>Several people perform regular builds and regression test runs and
-send their test results to the <a href="http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-testresults/">
-gcc-testresults mailing list</a>; see
-<a href="http://gcc.gnu.org/install/test.html"> Installing GCC: Testing</a>
-for information about submitting test results.</p>
+<p>This page describes regular efforts to test GCC thoroughly, plus ideas
+for additional testing by volunteers who have machine cycles to spare.
+For basic information about running the GCC testsuites, see
+<a href="http://gcc.gnu.org/install/test.html">Installing GCC: Testing</a>.
+For information about testsuite organization and adding new tests, see
+<a href="http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gccint/Test-Suites.html">
+Test Suites</a> in the GCC Internals manual and the README files in
+the test suite directories.</p>
+
+<h2>Current efforts</h2>
+
+<ul>
+ <li>Ben Elliston operates a Tinderbox-style
+ <a href="http://people.redhat.com/bje/tinderbox.html">build and
+ regression testing system</a>.</li>
+
+ <li>Several people perform regular builds and regression test runs and
+ send their test results to the
+ <a href="http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-testresults/">gcc-testresults
+ mailing list</a>.</li>
+</ul>
+
+<h2>Ideas for further testing</h2>
+
+<ul>
+ <li>Perform regular builds and testing of current GCC sources that
+ are not already being reported regularly; see
+ <a href="http://gcc.gnu.org/install/test.html">Installing GCC:
+ Testing</a> for instructions on submitting test results.</li>
+ <li>If your system is beefy enough, do regular builds and test runs with
+ RTL consistency checks enabled. This slows the compiler down by an
+ order of magnitude but has found plenty of bugs in the past.</li>
+ <li>Set up an autobuilder (see
+ <a href="http://people.redhat.com/geoffk/gcc-regression/">
+ gcc-regression</a>) to nag people in e-mail when they submit
+ patches that break builds. Ideally we would have one of these
+ for at least each of the primary evaluation platforms listed in
+ the current release criteria, but the more the merrier.
+ Kaveh Ghazi <<a href="mailto:ghazi@caip.rutgers.edu">
+ ghazi@caip.rutgers.edu</a>> suggests that the autobuilders
+ should keep track of regressions in the number of warnings and nag
+ patchers until the new warnings are fixed, just as for testsuite
+ regressions.</li>
+ <li>Build and test some or all of the following applications, some of
+ which are part of the GCC release criteria. If the instructions
+ are incomplete for your target, update them. Additions to this
+ list (accompanied with build and test guides) are welcome.
+
+<br />
+<table align="center" border="1">
+<tr><th>Name</th>
+ <th>Language</th>
+ <th>Version</th>
+ <th>Source URL</th>
+ <th>Build and test guide</th>
+</tr>
+<tr><td><a href="http://www.oonumerics.org/blitz/">Blitz++</a></td>
+ <td>C++</td>
+ <td>20001213</td>
+ <td><a href="http://www.oonumerics.org/blitz/download/snapshots/blitz-20001213.tar.gz">blitz-20001213.tar.gz</a></td>
+ <td><a href="testing-blitz.html">testing-blitz</a></td>
+</tr>
+<tr><td><a href="http://www.boost.org/">Boost</a></td>
+ <td>C++</td>
+ <td>1.22.0</td> <!-- the download link they give here isn't versioned... -->
+ <td><a href="http://www.boost.org/boost_all.tar.gz">boost_all.tar.gz</a></td>
+ <td><a href="testing-boost.html">testing-boost</a></td>
+</tr>
+<tr><td><a href="http://superbeast.ucsd.edu/~landry/FTensor/">FTensor</a></td>
+ <td>C++</td>
+ <td>1.1 patch 16</td>
+ <td><a href="http://www.oonumerics.org/FTensor/FTensor_gcc_integration_test.tar.gz">
+ FTensor_gcc_integration_test.tar.gz</a></td>
+ <td><a href="testing-ftensor.html">testing-ftensor</a></td>
+</tr>
+<tr><td><a href="http://www.netlib.org/lapack/index.html">LAPACK</a></td>
+ <td>Fortran 77</td>
+ <td>3.0</td>
+ <td><a href="http://www.netlib.org/lapack/lapack.tgz">LAPACK (testing programs)</a></td>
+ <td><a href="testing-lapack.html">testing-lapack</a></td>
+</tr>
+<tr><td><a href="http://www.acl.lanl.gov/pooma/">POOMA</a></td>
+ <td>C++</td>
+ <td>2.3.0</td>
+ <td><a href="ftp://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/infrastructure/pooma-gcc.tar.gz">pooma-gcc.tar.gz</a></td>
+ <td><a href="testing-pooma.html">testing-pooma</a></td>
+</tr>
+<tr><td><a href="http://www.trolltech.com/products/qt/index.html">Qt</a></td>
+ <td>C++</td>
+ <td>2.3.0</td>
+ <td><a href="ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/source/qt-x11-2.3.0.tar.gz">qt-x11-2.3.0.tar.gz</a></td>
+ <td><a href="testing-qt.html">testing-qt</a></td>
+</tr>
+</table></li>
+
+ <li>If the operating system kernel you use is normally compiled with
+ GCC, try building it with the current sources. Make sure it boots.
+ If you're building with relatively stable GCC sources such as a
+ release branch, use the newly built kernel for running further GCC
+ tests (keeping in mind the NO WARRANTY section of the GPL).</li>
+ <li>Build and test applications that are important to you; investigate
+ and report any problems you find.</li>
+ <li>Build and test packages that are normally available on your
+ platform and for which you have access to source.</li>
+ <li>Run benchmarks regularly and report performance regressions.</li>
+</ul>
</body>
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* Re: [PATCH] web pages: add lots of info to testing/index.html
2002-11-12 10:13 [PATCH] web pages: add lots of info to testing/index.html Janis Johnson
@ 2002-11-12 11:35 ` Kelley Cook
2002-11-12 13:37 ` Janis Johnson
2002-11-13 9:53 ` Gerald Pfeifer
1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Kelley Cook @ 2002-11-12 11:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Janis Johnson @comerica.com, gcc-patches
>Validated with http://validator.w3.org (although it doesn't like the
>existing <verbatim> tag in beginner.html). If there are no objections
>I'll check these in within a couple of days.
<verbatim> is a MetaHTML tag that won't show up in the generated page
and which you can verify is not actually in the web page at
http://gcc.gnu.org/projects/beginner.html
MetaHTML unfortunately makes it somewhat difficult to pre-debug an html
patch. Here is a workaround that sometimes works. You can save the page
that is currently on the website (and therefore already has been
processed by metaHTML) and hopefully apply your proposed diff-file to
that page (this, of course, only works if you were not using metaHTML
tags), to which you can check using the HTML Validator.
Kelley Cook
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* Re: [PATCH] web pages: add lots of info to testing/index.html
2002-11-12 11:35 ` Kelley Cook
@ 2002-11-12 13:37 ` Janis Johnson
2002-11-12 14:42 ` Gerald Pfeifer
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Janis Johnson @ 2002-11-12 13:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Kelley Cook; +Cc: Janis Johnson @comerica.com, gcc-patches
On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 02:35:51PM -0500, Kelley Cook wrote:
> >Validated with http://validator.w3.org (although it doesn't like the
> >existing <verbatim> tag in beginner.html). If there are no objections
> >I'll check these in within a couple of days.
>
> <verbatim> is a MetaHTML tag that won't show up in the generated page
> and which you can verify is not actually in the web page at
> http://gcc.gnu.org/projects/beginner.html
>
> MetaHTML unfortunately makes it somewhat difficult to pre-debug an html
> patch. Here is a workaround that sometimes works. You can save the page
> that is currently on the website (and therefore already has been
> processed by metaHTML) and hopefully apply your proposed diff-file to
> that page (this, of course, only works if you were not using metaHTML
> tags), to which you can check using the HTML Validator.
Thanks for the information. Will it also work if I validate as usual
but just ignore messages about the <verbatim> tag and other things that
metaHTML doesn't like?
Janis
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* Re: [PATCH] web pages: add lots of info to testing/index.html
2002-11-12 13:37 ` Janis Johnson
@ 2002-11-12 14:42 ` Gerald Pfeifer
0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Gerald Pfeifer @ 2002-11-12 14:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Janis Johnson; +Cc: Kelley Cook, gcc-patches
On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Janis Johnson wrote:
> Thanks for the information. Will it also work if I validate as usual
> but just ignore messages about the <verbatim> tag and other things that
> metaHTML doesn't like?
Yes, that should work (unless the validator is too confused to continue).
Usually we should not use MetaHTML tags such as <verbatim> in regular
pages; the problem here is a bug in MetaHTML that one of our GCC
co-developers had fixed months ago but which has not been accepted by
the MetaHTML developer(s) yet.
(In fact, there is a serious problem with MetaHTML maintainership, but
this is something which is already being delt with.)
Gerald
--
Gerald "Jerry" pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at http://www.dbai.tuwien.ac.at/~pfeifer/
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* Re: [PATCH] web pages: add lots of info to testing/index.html
2002-11-12 10:13 [PATCH] web pages: add lots of info to testing/index.html Janis Johnson
2002-11-12 11:35 ` Kelley Cook
@ 2002-11-13 9:53 ` Gerald Pfeifer
1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Gerald Pfeifer @ 2002-11-13 9:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Janis Johnson; +Cc: gcc-patches
On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Janis Johnson wrote:
> and test guides from gcc.gnu.org/gcc-3.1 to gcc.gnu.org/testing; future
> release criteria can reference those versions. Those guides aren't
> shown here because they're already in the web pages. (Gerald, should
> the existing copies be removed from gcc-3.1, with the links in
> criteria.html updated?)
Yes, this sounds like a good plan.
In this case we should also add proper redirections to our web server
config via the wwwdocs/htdocs/.htaccess file. (If you need help, just
let me know.)
Gerald
--
Gerald "Jerry" pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at http://www.dbai.tuwien.ac.at/~pfeifer/
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