From: Rask Ingemann Lambertsen <rask@sygehus.dk>
To: Uros Bizjak <ubizjak@gmail.com>
Cc: GCC Patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>, Jan Hubicka <jh@suse.cz>,
Richard Kenner <kenner@vlsi1.ultra.nyu.edu>,
rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca
Subject: Re: New back end ia16: 16-bit Intel x86
Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 15:28:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070808152749.GD25795@sygehus.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46B8CFFD.2020406@gmail.com>
On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 10:03:09PM +0200, Uros Bizjak wrote:
> Rask Ingemann Lambertsen wrote:
>
> [...]
> > It only helps a little. For example, powerpc-unknown-eabisim hasn't
> > built
> >for a few months now, despite sharing much code with targets such as
> >powerpc64-unknown-linux-gnu, powerpc-ibm-aix5.2.0.0 and
> >powerpc-apple-darwin8.5.0 which are built and tested daily.
> >
> In the long term, I was thinking about -m16 compile flag, so we could
> combine for example "-march=core2 -m16". Having -m16, the testsuite
> would be run with RUNTESTFLAGS="--target_board=unix\{,-m16\}".
When would "-march=core2 -m16" make any sort of sense? Note that you
won't be able to configure for e.g. i686-pc-linux-gnu and run the test suite
with "--target_board=unix\{,-m16\}" because -m32 uses glibc and -m16 uses
newlib.
> IIRC, linux boot code was just converted to plain C, and -m16 would
> surely find some use there.
The linux boot code compiles into 32-bit, i386+ code using the unmodified
i386 back end. That it runs in a code segment where the default data and
address sizes are 16 bits just means that it needs a lot of 0x66 and 0x67
prefixes, but that's handled entirely by GAS. If you want to help the linux
people here, implement an option to reliably output a ".code16gcc" directive
at the beginning of the asm file.
> > This may not look like a lot, but it centers around the only common
> >characteristics of the x86 family: The mod r/m fields of an instruction,
> >the
> >effect that instructions have on the condition codes and the x87.
>
> I have actually dig out an old Turbo Assembler Quick Reference Guide,
> and (let's say more than) 90% of instructions are shared between 8086,
> 80286 and 80386 (modulo r/m32 and imm32).
mov/div/add/sub/or/xor/and/push/pop,jmp,jCC is shared,
shift/rotate[1],mul,sCC,mov[zs]MN,lea,cmov isn't. It's not like 90%.
Addressing modes are also significantly different.
[1] The detail here is that while the assembler syntax, permitted operands
and such are similiar, these instructions are usually prohibitively
expensive on anything less than an i80386.
--
Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-08-08 15:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-08-06 14:23 Uros Bizjak
2007-08-07 1:29 ` Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
2007-08-07 17:37 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-08-07 20:03 ` Uros Bizjak
2007-08-08 12:21 ` Jan Hubicka
2007-08-08 17:30 ` Mark Mitchell
2007-08-08 23:22 ` Richard Kenner
2007-08-08 18:52 ` Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
2007-08-08 20:24 ` Michael Matz
2007-08-08 20:59 ` H.J. Lu
2007-08-08 22:46 ` DJ Delorie
2007-08-09 9:33 ` Jan Hubicka
2007-08-09 14:01 ` Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
2007-08-09 15:43 ` DJ Delorie
2007-08-08 15:28 ` Rask Ingemann Lambertsen [this message]
2007-08-17 22:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-08-18 2:34 ` Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
2007-08-18 5:33 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-08-18 17:36 ` Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
2007-08-18 17:50 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-08-18 20:39 ` Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
2007-08-19 2:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-08-19 12:25 ` Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
2007-08-19 20:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-08-21 8:48 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-08-21 14:35 ` Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
2007-08-21 17:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-08-21 18:56 ` Real-mode i386 back end (Was: New back end ia16: 16-bit Intel x86) Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
2007-08-19 7:29 ` New back end ia16: 16-bit Intel x86 H. Peter Anvin
2007-08-19 10:56 ` Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
2007-08-19 21:40 ` H. Peter Anvin
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-08-19 19:58 Ross Ridge
2007-08-19 16:11 Ross Ridge
2007-08-19 17:36 ` Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
2007-08-18 20:46 Ross Ridge
2007-08-19 16:20 ` Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
2007-08-02 20:15 Ross Ridge
2007-08-01 19:25 Ross Ridge
2007-08-01 22:57 ` Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
[not found] <20070801153758.ACBB974253@caffeine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca.suse.lists.egcs-patches>
2007-08-01 17:44 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-01 15:38 Ross Ridge
2007-08-01 17:59 ` Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
2007-07-31 18:06 Ross Ridge
2007-08-01 0:34 ` Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
2007-08-01 9:53 ` Richard Kenner
2007-08-01 12:33 ` Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
2007-08-01 12:44 ` Richard Kenner
2007-08-01 13:41 ` Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
2007-08-01 13:52 ` Richard Kenner
2007-08-01 10:38 ` Jan Hubicka
2007-08-01 17:30 ` Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
2007-07-31 15:24 Ross Ridge
2007-07-31 17:44 ` Michael Matz
2007-07-31 0:50 Ross Ridge
2007-07-31 8:54 ` Tristan Gingold
2007-07-31 13:46 ` Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
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