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From: Jonathan Wakely <jwakely@redhat.com>
To: Hans-Peter Nilsson <hp@bitrange.com>
Cc: Richard Henderson <rth@redhat.com>,
	libstdc++@gcc.gnu.org,        gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: [libstdc++/65033] Give alignment info to libatomic
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2015 09:45:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150407094458.GA9755@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.02.1504052052110.29977@arjuna.pair.com>

On 05/04/15 21:07 -0400, Hans-Peter Nilsson wrote:
>On Fri, 3 Apr 2015, Jonathan Wakely wrote:
>
>> On 03/04/15 05:24 -0400, Hans-Peter Nilsson wrote:
>> > On Thu, 2 Apr 2015, Hans-Peter Nilsson wrote:
>> > > Why then use __alignof(_M_i) (the object-alignment)
>> > > instead of _S_alignment (the deduced alas insufficiently
>> > > increased type-alignment)?
>>
>> Isn't the object aligned to _S_alignment?
>
>We did specify that with the alignas.  Is the alignof always
>exactly the same as an alignas, if one is specified?  (And will
>that not change in a future amendment, standard and/or
>implementation?)  Either way, is there a test-case to guard all
>this?

The language guarantees that's what alignas() does, if the argument is
a valid alignment (which it must be if we derive it from some other
type's alignment).

>Those questions wouldn't even be asked if we used _S_alignment
>for the fake-pointer too, just as a matter of defensive
>programming.
>
>> Instead of changing every case in the condition to include sizeof why
>> not just do it afterwards using sizeof(_Tp), in the _S_alignment
>> calculation?
>
>Doh.
>
>> We know sizeof(_Tp) == sizeof(corresponding integer type) because
>> that's the whole point of the conditionals! See attachment.
>>
>> > @@ -216,7 +216,7 @@ _GLIBCXX_BEGIN_NAMESPACE_VERSION
>> >       is_lock_free() const noexcept
>> >       {
>> > 	// Produce a fake, minimally aligned pointer.
>> > -	void *__a = reinterpret_cast<void *>(-__alignof(_M_i));
>> > +	void *__a = reinterpret_cast<void *>(-_S_alignment);
>> > 	return __atomic_is_lock_free(sizeof(_M_i), __a);
>> >       }
>>
>> If _M_i is aligned to _S_alignment then what difference does the
>> change above make?
>>
>> It doesn't matter if the value is per-object if we've forced all such
>> objects to have the same alignment, does it?
>>
>> Or is it different if a std::atomic<T> is included in some other
>> struct and the user forces a different alignment on it? I don't think
>> we really need to support that, users shouldn't be doing that.
>
>Why do we even need to ask those questions, when the patch takes
>care of the per-type business without doubt?

Well if we know the object is guaranteed to be correctly aligned we
might not even need a fake, minimally aligned pointer. We could go
back to passing &_M_i or just a null pointer to __atomic_is_lock_free.

The whole point of alignas() is to fix the alignment to a known value.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-07  9:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-12 21:23 Richard Henderson
2015-02-18 12:15 ` Jonathan Wakely
2015-03-25 16:22   ` Jonathan Wakely
2015-03-25 18:36     ` Richard Henderson
2015-03-25 18:49       ` Jonathan Wakely
2015-03-25 19:04         ` Richard Henderson
2015-03-26 13:21           ` Jonathan Wakely
2015-03-31 13:41             ` Jonathan Wakely
2015-03-31 14:54               ` Richard Henderson
2015-03-31 15:03                 ` Jonathan Wakely
2015-03-31 15:13                   ` Richard Henderson
2015-03-31 15:41                     ` Jonathan Wakely
2015-04-06 22:59             ` Hans-Peter Nilsson
2015-04-13  4:45             ` patch fix issue 1 with "[libstdc++/65033] Give alignment info to libatomic" Hans-Peter Nilsson
2015-04-13 11:59               ` Jonathan Wakely
2015-04-13  5:59             ` Issue 2 " Hans-Peter Nilsson
2015-04-13 17:53               ` Joseph Myers
2015-03-25 18:39     ` [libstdc++/65033] Give alignment info to libatomic Richard Henderson
2015-04-03  3:04     ` Hans-Peter Nilsson
2015-03-26 11:54 ` Jonathan Wakely
2015-04-03  3:57 ` Hans-Peter Nilsson
2015-04-03  9:25   ` Hans-Peter Nilsson
2015-04-03 14:13     ` Jonathan Wakely
2015-04-03 19:13       ` Richard Henderson
2015-04-07 13:14         ` Jonathan Wakely
2015-04-09 11:17           ` Jonathan Wakely
2015-04-06  1:07       ` Hans-Peter Nilsson
2015-04-07  9:45         ` Jonathan Wakely [this message]
2015-04-07 10:52           ` Hans-Peter Nilsson
2015-04-07 13:12             ` Jonathan Wakely
2015-04-07 14:51               ` Hans-Peter Nilsson
2015-04-07 15:06                 ` Jonathan Wakely
2015-04-08  3:58                   ` Hans-Peter Nilsson
2015-04-08  9:35                     ` Jonathan Wakely

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