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From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Richard Henderson <rth@redhat.com>
Cc: gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org, David Edelsohn <dje.gcc@gmail.com>,
	       Marcus Shawcroft <marcus.shawcroft@arm.com>,
	       Richard Earnshaw <richard.earnshaw@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH ppc64,aarch64,alpha 00/15] Improve backend constant generation
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 05:36:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150813030652.GC19357@gate.crashing.org> (raw)
Message-ID: <20150813053600.3TSkG4aU-Y8zMYM_KbFgwy_HmRiyL9uzPZeEvJUfq0U@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55CB671E.9090705@redhat.com>

On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 08:32:46AM -0700, Richard Henderson wrote:
> On 08/12/2015 01:31 AM, Segher Boessenkool wrote:
> > Is there something that makes the cache not get too big?  Do we
> > care, anyway?
> 
> No, nothing ever reduces the size of the cache.  I doubt we care, but I haven't
> instrumented to see how big it grows.
> 
> My intuition says the most important thing about managing this cache is not to
> put the most common trivial constants in, and I already do that.

Right.  And it seems to cache negative results too (the five-insn
sequence).

> >>     I did attempt to fix it, and got nothing for my troubles except
> >>     poorer code generation for AND/IOR/XOR with non-trivial constants.
> > 
> > Could you give an example of code that isn't split early enough?
> 
> I believe the examples I was seeing was in the libdecnumber code.  I'd have to
> go back and reproduce it now...

If you could, please do.

> >>     Perhaps there's some other predication or costing error that's
> >>     getting in the way, and it simply wasn't obvious to me.   In any
> >>     case, nothing in this patch set addresses this at all.
> > 
> > The instruction (set (reg) (const_int 0x12345678)) is costed as 4
> > (i.e. one insn).  That cannot be good.  This is alternative #5 in
> > *movsi_internal1_single (there are many more variants of that
> > pattern).
> 
> Yes, when I tried to fix it, I did adjust that costing, but still...

I misread it (it's alt #6, with cost 8).  Maybe Alan's patches would
fix this one?

> >>   * Constants are split *really* late.  In particular, after reload.
> > 
> > Yeah that is bad.  But I'm still not seeing it.  Hrm, maybe only
> > DImode ones?
> 
> Dunno.  I found it after I did add a recipe to use ADDI, which then triggered
> an ICE due to the r0 base register.

Ah!  Reload generates *new* addition insns out of thin air, and that
is exactly the case where ADDI won't work.  LRA works a bit better
there it seems (but it is still not the default for rs6000); if the
constraint ("b" in this case) would not match, it tries other things.

> > Have you looked at generated code quality?
> 
> I've looked at diffs of all of the object files in the target directory.  There
> were definite spots of improvement.  I wasn't able to spot any regressions.

[ I've looked now. ]

Some of the new combos help a bit, yes.  Total code size increased
a tiny bit; it looks to be all because of unfortunate scheduling and
less tail merging.  The usual.

32-bit code is identical, as it should be ;-)


Segher

  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-13  4:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-12  1:11 Richard Henderson
2015-08-12  1:11 ` [PATCH 01/15] rs6000: Split out rs6000_is_valid_and_mask_wide Richard Henderson
2015-08-12 13:24   ` Segher Boessenkool
2015-08-12 15:50     ` Richard Henderson
2015-08-13  2:29       ` Segher Boessenkool
2015-08-12  1:11 ` [PATCH 05/15] rs6000: Move constant via mask into build_set_const_data Richard Henderson
2015-08-12  1:12 ` [PATCH 13/15] alpha: Use hashing infrastructure for generating constants Richard Henderson
2015-08-12  1:12 ` [PATCH 15/15] alpha: Remove alpha_emit_set_long_const Richard Henderson
2015-08-12  1:12 ` [PATCH 12/15] aarch64: Test for duplicated 32-bit halves Richard Henderson
2015-08-12  1:12 ` [PATCH 04/15] rs6000: Implement set_const_data infrastructure Richard Henderson
2015-08-12 13:53   ` Segher Boessenkool
2015-08-12  1:12 ` [PATCH 09/15] rs6000: Use xoris in constant construction Richard Henderson
2015-08-12  1:12 ` [PATCH 02/15] rs6000: Make num_insns_constant_wide static Richard Henderson
2015-08-12  1:12 ` [PATCH 08/15] rs6000: Generalize masking in constant generation Richard Henderson
2015-08-12  1:12 ` [PATCH 11/15] aarch64: Use hashing infrastructure for generating constants Richard Henderson
2015-08-12  1:12 ` [PATCH 06/15] rs6000: Use rldiwi in constant construction Richard Henderson
2015-08-12 14:02   ` Segher Boessenkool
2015-08-12 15:55     ` Richard Henderson
2015-08-13  2:43       ` Segher Boessenkool
2015-08-13 19:01         ` Mike Stump
2015-08-13 20:30           ` Joseph Myers
2015-08-12  1:12 ` [PATCH 03/15] rs6000: Tidy num_insns_constant vs CONST_DOUBLE Richard Henderson
2015-08-12  1:12 ` [PATCH 14/15] alpha: Split out alpha_cost_set_const Richard Henderson
2015-08-12  1:12 ` [PATCH 07/15] rs6000: Generalize left shift in constant generation Richard Henderson
2015-08-12  1:12 ` [PATCH 10/15] rs6000: Use rotldi " Richard Henderson
2015-08-12  8:32 ` [PATCH ppc64,aarch64,alpha 00/15] Improve backend " Segher Boessenkool
2015-08-12 15:32   ` Richard Henderson
2015-08-13  3:07     ` Segher Boessenkool [this message]
2015-08-13  5:36       ` Segher Boessenkool
2015-08-13  3:10   ` Segher Boessenkool
2015-08-13 11:32     ` David Edelsohn
2015-08-12  8:32 ` Richard Earnshaw
2015-08-12  8:43   ` Richard Earnshaw
2015-08-12  9:02     ` Richard Earnshaw
2015-08-12 15:45   ` Richard Henderson
     [not found] <A610E03AD50BFC4D95529A36D37FA55E7B006D6780@GEORGE.Emea.Arm.com>
2015-08-12 15:59 ` Wilco Dijkstra
2015-08-12 16:09   ` Richard Henderson
2015-08-25 14:21     ` Wilco Dijkstra
2015-08-13  3:30   ` Segher Boessenkool

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