From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Wilco Dijkstra <wdijkstr@arm.com>
Cc: Jeff Law <law@redhat.com>, "'GCC Patches'" <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: RFC: Combine of compare & and oddity
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2015 19:22:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150903192002.GE13559@gate.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <001301d0e679$c8a210c0$59e63240$@com>
On Thu, Sep 03, 2015 at 07:53:12PM +0100, Wilco Dijkstra wrote:
> > > >>You will end up with a *lot* of target hooks like this. It will also
> > > >>make testing harder (less coverage). I am not sure that is a good idea.
> > > >
> > > >We certainly need a lot more target hooks in general so GCC can do the
> > > >right thing
> > > >(rather than using costs inconsistently all over the place). But that's a
> > > >different
> > > >discussion...
> > > Let's be very careful here, target hooks aren't always the solution.
> > > I'd rather see the costing models fixed and use those across the board.
> > > But frankly, I don't know how to fix the costing models.
> >
> > Combine doesn't currently use costs to decide how to simplify and
> > canonicalise things. Simplifications are what is simpler RTL; combine's
> > job is to make fewer RTL instructions (which is not the same thing as
> > fewer machine instructions, or cheaper instructions). Changing what is
> > canonical based on target hooks would be, uh, interesting.
>
> Would it be reasonable to query the rtx_cost of a compare+and and if the cost
> is the same as an AND assume that that instruction does not need to be "improved"
> into the canonical form? That way it will use the compare+and pattern if it exists
> and still try the zero_extract/shift+and forms for targets that don't have a
> compare+and instruction.
At the point the canonicalisation is done you do not yet know if this
is a valid instruction at all. Introducing more cost computations for
random things is not such a great idea, and for RTL that can never be
part of a machine instruction doubly so.
I think we really should just change what is the canonical form for such
a comparison.
Segher
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-09-03 19:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-09-02 17:09 Wilco Dijkstra
2015-09-02 18:49 ` Segher Boessenkool
2015-09-02 19:56 ` Segher Boessenkool
2015-09-03 11:51 ` Wilco Dijkstra
2015-09-03 13:57 ` Segher Boessenkool
2015-09-03 15:00 ` Wilco Dijkstra
2015-09-03 15:21 ` Andrew Pinski
2015-09-03 16:15 ` Jeff Law
2015-09-03 16:40 ` Segher Boessenkool
2015-09-03 18:56 ` Wilco Dijkstra
2015-09-03 19:05 ` Jeff Law
2015-09-03 19:20 ` Richard Sandiford
2015-09-03 21:20 ` Jeff Law
2015-09-03 19:22 ` Segher Boessenkool [this message]
2015-09-03 16:24 ` Segher Boessenkool
2015-09-03 16:36 ` Kyrill Tkachov
2015-09-03 16:44 ` Wilco Dijkstra
2015-09-03 17:27 ` Segher Boessenkool
2015-09-03 17:30 ` Oleg Endo
2015-09-03 18:53 ` Wilco Dijkstra
2015-09-03 18:42 ` Jeff Law
2015-09-03 19:06 ` Segher Boessenkool
2015-09-03 15:52 ` Jeff Law
2015-09-02 20:45 ` Jeff Law
2015-09-02 21:05 ` Segher Boessenkool
2015-09-03 15:26 ` Jeff Law
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