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From: Markus Trippelsdorf <markus@trippelsdorf.de>
To: Trevor Saunders <tbsaunde@tbsaunde.org>
Cc: Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Gerald Pfeifer <gerald@pfeifer.com>,
	GCC Patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] doc: discourage use of __attribute__((optimize())) in production code
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 16:41:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151214164057.GD1409@x4> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151214161453.GA16122@tsaunders-iceball.corp.tor1.mozilla.com>

On 2015.12.14 at 11:20 -0500, Trevor Saunders wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 10:01:27AM +0100, Richard Biener wrote:
> > On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 9:03 PM, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org> wrote:
> > > Markus Trippelsdorf <markus@trippelsdorf.de> writes:
> > >
> > >> Many developers are still using __attribute__((optimize())) in
> > >> production code, although it quite broken.
> > >
> > > Wo reads documentation? @) If you want to discourage it better warn once
> > > at runtime.
> > 
> > We're also quite heavily using it in LTO internally now.
> 
> besides that does this really make sense?  I suspect very few people are
> using this for the fun of it.  I'd guess most usage is to disable
> optimizations to work around bugs, or maybe trying to get a very hot
> function optimized more.  Either way I suspect its only used by people
> with good reason and this would just really iritate them.

Well, if you look at bugzilla you'll find several wrong code bugs caused
by this attribute, e.g.: https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=59262

Also Richi stated in the past (I quote):
»I consider the optimize attribute code seriously broken and
unmaintained (but sometimes useful for debugging - and only that).«

https://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2012-07/msg00201.html

-- 
Markus

  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-14 16:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-13  8:19 Markus Trippelsdorf
2015-12-13 20:03 ` Andi Kleen
2015-12-14  9:01   ` Richard Biener
2015-12-14 16:21     ` Trevor Saunders
2015-12-14 16:41       ` Markus Trippelsdorf [this message]
2015-12-14 17:04         ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2015-12-14 18:57         ` Trevor Saunders
2016-04-28 15:32 ` Jeff Law

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