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From: Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>
To: Jeff Law <law@redhat.com>
Cc: Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com>,
	       Aldy Hernandez <aldyh@redhat.com>,
	Martin Sebor <msebor@gmail.com>,
	       gcc-patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: protected alloca class for malloc fallback
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 16:44:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160816164424.GZ14857@tucnak.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3f8d451d-557d-fb96-7747-dea1c6540cd4@redhat.com>

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 10:27:58AM -0600, Jeff Law wrote:
> I think you're being rather short-sighed here.  GCC is being used in ways we
> can't necessarily predict -- which might include compile servers, JITs, web
> services, etc.

For compile server/web services one needs to add the protection outside of
gcc (sandboxing, containers, SELinux, limiting CPU and/or memory, etc.),
because even with very short testcases e.g. in C/C++ one can eat arbitrary
amounts of stack even without any uses of alloca in the compiler, simply
through deep recursion in the parsers etc.  The attack vector is so big that
trying to do something just about alloca is IMHO pointless, and we really
don't want to fight 20 gcc CVEs every day (1:1 with most bugreports).
Alloca is really useful in the compiler IMO, it is significantly faster than
heap allocation, and that is what matters in many places a lot.

	Jakub

  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-16 16:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-04 11:30 Aldy Hernandez
2016-08-04 12:58 ` Richard Biener
2016-08-04 15:19   ` Aldy Hernandez
2016-08-04 19:24     ` Jeff Law
2016-08-05 14:37       ` Aldy Hernandez
2016-08-05 15:15         ` Pedro Alves
2016-08-05 16:23         ` Jeff Law
2016-08-05 17:48           ` Richard Biener
2016-08-05  8:17     ` Richard Biener
2016-08-04 19:06 ` Pedro Alves
2016-08-04 19:16   ` Jeff Law
2016-08-04 19:22     ` Pedro Alves
2016-08-04 19:26       ` Jeff Law
2016-08-04 19:31         ` Pedro Alves
2016-08-05  2:10 ` Martin Sebor
2016-08-05 14:42   ` Aldy Hernandez
2016-08-05 17:56     ` Richard Biener
2016-08-05 18:16       ` Oleg Endo
2016-08-05 20:07         ` Richard Biener
2016-08-06 10:09           ` Aldy Hernandez
2016-08-06 10:15           ` Aldy Hernandez
2016-08-06 15:08             ` Richard Biener
2016-08-08 17:00               ` Jeff Law
2016-08-08 17:32                 ` Trevor Saunders
2016-08-08 19:03                   ` Richard Biener
2016-08-09 11:34                   ` Oleg Endo
2016-08-09 17:34                     ` Trevor Saunders
2016-08-10 17:03                       ` Oleg Endo
2016-08-11  1:23                         ` Trevor Saunders
2016-08-11 12:18                           ` Oleg Endo
2016-08-11 17:55                             ` Trevor Saunders
2016-08-20  2:29                         ` Mike Stump
2016-08-21 20:00                           ` C++11? (Re: protected alloca class for malloc fallback) Pedro Alves
2016-08-22  7:10                             ` Trevor Saunders
2016-08-22  7:28                               ` Richard Biener
2016-08-22 12:02                             ` Eric Gallager
2016-08-22 12:58                               ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2016-08-22 22:08                               ` Mike Stump
2016-08-23 23:17                                 ` Eric Gallager
2016-08-09 13:17       ` protected alloca class for malloc fallback Aldy Hernandez
2016-08-09 13:21         ` Bernd Schmidt
2016-08-10 10:04         ` Richard Biener
2016-08-10 10:12           ` Aldy Hernandez
2016-08-10 10:39             ` Richard Biener
2016-08-10 18:00           ` Jeff Law
2016-08-10 18:33             ` Richard Biener
2016-08-16 16:28               ` Jeff Law
2016-08-16 16:44                 ` Jakub Jelinek [this message]
2016-08-16 16:47                   ` Jeff Law
2016-08-16 17:54                     ` Martin Sebor
2016-08-17  8:27                       ` Richard Biener
2016-08-17 13:39                         ` Martin Sebor

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