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From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Jeff Law <law@redhat.com>
Cc: Bernd Schmidt <bschmidt@redhat.com>,
	gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org,        dje.gcc@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/9] regrename: Don't run if function was separately shrink-wrapped
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 19:13:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160914190353.GA22273@gate.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <85cb1e59-f383-129e-bea7-e179f913c0c9@redhat.com>

On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 12:11:50PM -0600, Jeff Law wrote:
> On 09/14/2016 07:04 AM, Segher Boessenkool wrote:
> >>I'd
> >>probably start by fixing the dataflow issues and see if that fixes the
> >>regrename thing as a side effect.
> >
> >Have you seen https://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2016-07/msg00091.html ?
> I missed it.

Yeah thought so, too much stuff in flight here.

> My interpretation....
> 
> The uses at each "strange" exit fixing the first issue with 
> shrink-wrapping definitely sounds like we've got a dataflow problem of 
> some sort.
> 
> If you think about it, conceptually we want the return insn to make the 
> callee saved registers "used" so that DCE, regrename and friends don't 
> muck with them.  The fact that we don't is as much never having to care 
> all that much until recently.

(There is no return insn at those exits; these are exits *without*
successor block, not the exit block).

It is puzzling to me why adding USEs for just the registers that *are*
separately shrink-wrapped does not work; only all those that *could* be
shrink-wrapped does.  Do you have any idea about that?

> I continue to wonder if we could add something similar to 
> CALL_INSN_FUNCTION_USAGE where we attach uses for all the call-saved 
> registers onto a return insn.  We would attach them at the end of 
> prologue/epilogue generation and only attach those where were live 
> somewhere in the code.

Maybe adding the new insns to the {pro,epi}logue_insn_hash will help
something.  Or maybe it will blow up spectacularly.  Will know in a
bit.

> By deferring that step until after prologue/epilogue generation we 
> shouldn't cause unnecessary register saves/restores.

Hrm.  I'll see about that as well.

> I pondered just doing it for the separately wrapped components on that 
> particular path, but I've yet to convince myself that's actually correct.

If that is not correct, how is the status quo correct?  That is what
puzzles me above, too.

> Bernd knows the regrename code better than anyone.  Is there any way the 
> two of you could work together to try and track down what's going on in 
> the hash_map_rand case?  Even throwing in some more debug stuff might 
> help narrow things down since it's renaming something to a non-volatile, 
> non-separately shrink wrapped register that's causing problems.

Okay with me, I could certainly use his help.  I'll try the above things
first though, so not before friday.

> Can we agree that there's a set of targets that will improve and a set 
> that are harmed? And that to enable regrename by default we need to 
> either better describe the pipeline characteristics we're optimizing for 
> or a well defined way for targets to turn it off?

There is a well-defined way to turn it off, via common/config/*/*-common.c ,
TARGET_OPTION_OPTIMIZATION_TABLE.  We disagree on whether most targets will
want it enabled, i.e. whether it should (eventually) be enabled by default.


Segher

  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-14 19:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-08  1:48 [PATCH 0/9] separate shrink-wrapping Segher Boessenkool
2016-06-08  1:48 ` [PATCH 2/9] cfgcleanup: Don't confuse CFI when -fshrink-wrap-separate Segher Boessenkool
2016-06-08  1:48 ` [PATCH 1/9] separate shrink-wrap: New command-line flag, status flag, hooks, and doc Segher Boessenkool
2016-06-08  1:48 ` [PATCH 3/9] dce: Don't dead-code delete separately wrapped restores Segher Boessenkool
2016-06-08  1:53 ` [PATCH 6/9] sel-sched: Don't mess with register restores Segher Boessenkool
2016-06-08  1:53 ` [PATCH 4/9] regrename: Don't rename restores Segher Boessenkool
2016-06-08  1:54 ` [PATCH 5/9] regrename: Don't run if function was separately shrink-wrapped Segher Boessenkool
2016-06-08  9:18   ` Bernd Schmidt
2016-09-09 18:41     ` Jeff Law
2016-09-09 20:56       ` Segher Boessenkool
2016-09-09 23:12         ` Jeff Law
2016-09-10  6:59           ` Segher Boessenkool
2016-09-12 16:36             ` Jeff Law
     [not found]               ` <CAGWvny=fHHZtKF4_D2098+3PTPPzxtg3EjKDWHyJwUxz8g_tEA@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                 ` <CAGWvnymZVg_FR_PHqhwkgrAkHDntVMEiG4shfst_GA9OnZKvWg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                   ` <CAGWvnykQ3oz0UpcF6U1WYivbJww65h2EH5n3FocQ8JGY9hrOrA@mail.gmail.com>
2016-09-12 17:04                     ` Jeff Law
2016-09-14 13:08               ` Segher Boessenkool
2016-09-14 13:18                 ` Bernd Schmidt
2016-09-14 14:01                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2016-09-14 14:54                     ` Bernd Schmidt
2016-09-14 16:33                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2016-09-14 19:10                       ` Jeff Law
2016-09-14 17:55                     ` Jeff Law
2016-09-14 19:13                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2016-09-14 19:36                         ` Jeff Law
2016-09-14 18:21                 ` Jeff Law
2016-09-14 19:13                   ` Segher Boessenkool [this message]
2016-09-14 19:38                     ` Jeff Law
2016-09-14 22:34                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2016-09-15 17:28                         ` Jeff Law
2016-09-19 17:11                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2016-09-14 20:04                     ` Jeff Law
2016-09-14 22:51                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2016-06-08  1:54 ` [PATCH 7/9] cprop: Leave RTX_FRAME_RELATED_P instructions alone Segher Boessenkool
2016-06-08  2:03 ` [PATCH 8/9] shrink-wrap: shrink-wrapping for separate concerns Segher Boessenkool
2016-07-15 12:42   ` Bernd Schmidt
2016-07-18 16:34     ` Segher Boessenkool
2016-07-18 17:03       ` Bernd Schmidt
2016-07-19 14:46         ` Segher Boessenkool
2016-07-19 14:49           ` Bernd Schmidt
2016-07-19 15:35             ` Segher Boessenkool
2016-07-20 11:23               ` Bernd Schmidt
2016-07-20 15:06                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2016-06-08  2:04 ` [PATCH 9/9] rs6000: Separate shrink-wrapping Segher Boessenkool
2016-06-08 11:56 ` [PATCH 0/9] separate shrink-wrapping Bernd Schmidt
2016-06-08 12:45   ` Eric Botcazou
2016-06-08 15:16   ` Segher Boessenkool
2016-06-08 16:43     ` Bernd Schmidt
2016-06-08 17:26       ` Segher Boessenkool
2016-06-29 23:06         ` Bernd Schmidt
2016-06-29 23:24           ` Segher Boessenkool
2016-07-04  8:57             ` Segher Boessenkool
2016-06-14 21:24       ` Segher Boessenkool
2016-07-08 10:42         ` Bernd Schmidt
2016-07-08 12:11           ` Segher Boessenkool
2016-07-08 13:16             ` David Malcolm
2016-07-08 13:45               ` Segher Boessenkool
2016-07-08 14:35                 ` Bill Schmidt
2016-06-09 16:12 ` Jeff Law
2016-06-09 19:57   ` Segher Boessenkool
2016-06-28  0:22 ` PING " Segher Boessenkool
2016-07-07 10:16   ` PING x2 " Segher Boessenkool
2016-08-01  1:43 [PATCH v2 0/9] Separate shrink-wrapping Segher Boessenkool
2016-08-01  2:12 ` [PATCH 5/9] regrename: Don't run if function was separately shrink-wrapped Segher Boessenkool
2016-09-08 17:54   ` Jeff Law

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