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From: Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>
To: Alexander Monakov <amonakov@ispras.ru>
Cc: Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com>,
	       Nathan Sidwell <nathan@acm.org>,
	GCC Patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Kill -fdump-translation-unit
Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 17:59:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170510175826.GH1809@tucnak> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.2.20.13.1705102033250.11444@monopod.intra.ispras.ru>

On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 08:51:22PM +0300, Alexander Monakov wrote:
> On Wed, 10 May 2017, Richard Biener wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 5:41 PM, Nathan Sidwell <nathan@acm.org> wrote:
> > > -fdump-translation-unit is an inscrutably opaque dump.  It turned out that
> > > most of the uses of the tree-dump header file was to indirectly get at
> > > dumpfile.h, and the dump_function entry point it had forwarded to a dumper
> > > in tree-cfg.c.  The gimple dumper would use its node dumper when asked for a
> > > raw dump, but that was about it.
> > >
> > > We have prettier printers now.  This patch nukes the tu dumper.  ok?
> > 
> > Ok if nobody objects within 24 hours.
> 
> There was a reasonable IMO objection on the IRC (sadly, I can't say the same
> about the responses that person received from Nathan).
> 
> A quick search indicates that people have published .tu parsers in Perl, JS
> (producing json), the person objecting on IRC apparently used Python, and I'm
> aware of another Python-based parser by Bruce Merry.
> 
> My takeaway from this is that people cared enough about this to build and
> publish parsers in their language of choice, and that apparently it is or was
> feature-rich enough for them to use.  Despite the format being undocumented and
> formally not supported.
> 
> The motivation put forward in the opening mail ("is an inscutably opaque dump")
> seems like a weak reason for removal.

Can it at least be taken out of -fdump-tree-all?  It is huge, often larger
than the sum of all the other dump files, and don't remember ever using it
for anything.  Instead of trying to write a parser for it and reconstructing
something you can then later analyze, isn't it better to just write a plugin
that can analyze it directly?

	Jakub

  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-10 17:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-09 15:46 Nathan Sidwell
2017-05-10  8:58 ` Richard Biener
2017-05-10 17:51   ` Alexander Monakov
2017-05-10 17:59     ` Jakub Jelinek [this message]
2017-05-10 20:57       ` Alexander Monakov
2017-05-10 21:59       ` Nathan Sidwell
2017-05-11 15:52   ` Nathan Sidwell
2017-05-11 17:37     ` Rainer Orth
2017-05-11 17:48       ` Nathan Sidwell
2017-05-11 17:50         ` Rainer Orth

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