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From: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
To: Christophe Lyon <christophe.lyon@linaro.org>
Cc: Szabolcs Nagy <Szabolcs.Nagy@arm.com>,
	Christophe Lyon <christophe.lyon@st.com>,
	"gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org" <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>,
	nd <nd@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [ARM/FDPIC v5 03/21] [ARM] FDPIC: Force FDPIC related options unless -mno-fdpic is provided
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 15:37:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190515153718.GV23599@brightrain.aerifal.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKdteOa+PCQAFjk+DjQAJqaQO0ajSUkgfGcXrmyLQM0SXhy-zw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 05:12:11PM +0200, Christophe Lyon wrote:
> On Wed, 15 May 2019 at 16:37, Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 01:55:30PM +0000, Szabolcs Nagy wrote:
> > > On 15/05/2019 13:39, Christophe Lyon wrote:
> > > > In FDPIC mode, we set -fPIE unless the user provides -fno-PIE, -fpie,
> > > > -fPIC or -fpic: indeed FDPIC code is PIC, but we want to generate code
> > > > for executables rather than shared libraries by default.
> > > >
> > > > We also make sure to use the --fdpic assembler option, and select the
> > > > appropriate linker emulation.
> > > >
> > > > At link time, we also default to -pie, unless we are generating a
> > > > shared library or a relocatable file (-r). Note that even for static
> > > > link, we must specify the dynamic linker because the executable still
> > > > has to relocate itself at startup.
> > > >
> > > > We also force 'now' binding since lazy binding is not supported.
> > > >
> > > > We should also apply the same behavior for -Wl,-Ur as for -r, but I
> > > > couldn't find how to describe that in the specs fragment.
> > > ...
> > > > +/* Unless we generate a shared library or a relocatable object, we
> > > > +   force -pie.  */
> > > > +/* Even with -static, we have to define the dynamic-linker, as we
> > > > +   have some relocations to resolve at load time.  */
> > > > +#undef  SUBTARGET_EXTRA_LINK_SPEC
> > > > +#define SUBTARGET_EXTRA_LINK_SPEC                      \
> > > > +  "%{!mno-fdpic: -m " TARGET_FDPIC_LINKER_EMULATION            \
> > > > +   "%{!shared:%{!r: -pie}}                             \
> > > > +    %{static:-dynamic-linker " GNU_USER_DYNAMIC_LINKER "}}" \
> > > > +  "%{mno-fdpic: -m " TARGET_LINKER_EMULATION "}"       \
> > > > +  "%{!r:%{!mno-fdpic: -z now}}"
> > >
> > > i think -dynamic-linker can be avoided for -static using
> > > -static-pie linking with rcrt0.o
> >
> > Yes, -dynamic-linker should never be used with -static.
> 
> So, do you mean dropping completely the line:
> +    %{static:-dynamic-linker " GNU_USER_DYNAMIC_LINKER "}}" \
> and thus make -static unsupported, forcing users to use -static-pie instead?

Rather I would have -static behave the same as -static-pie. The intent
on musl when we added static pie (before glibc had it) was that
-static plus -pie (including default-pie, if built as default-pie)
would yield static pie output, and our patches still do this. When
static-pie was upstreamed in gcc, it was done differently for
compatibility with legacy versions of glibc. That's not a
consideration for fdpic.

> > > but more importantly: does the abi spec require the sysv dynamic
> > > linker name? that sounds suboptimal (in principle the same os
> >
> > ABI specs typically do this and we just ignore it. BFD contains
> > default dynamic linker strings for all sorts of ABIs, and they're all
> > wrong -- things like /lib/ld64.so.1, etc. I don't think it's worth
> > bothering with fighting the desire of folks writing ABI specs to do
> > this again and again. GCC overrides them all with the actually-correct
> > values when !static.
> >
> > > can support both normal elf and fdpic elf so you can test/use
> > > an fdpic toolchain on a system with mmu, but this requires
> > > different dynamic linker name ..otherwise one has to run
> > > executables in a chroot or separate mount namespace to change
> > > the dynamic linker)
> >
> > Indeed, it's a bad idea to make them clash.
> >
> 
> Not sure to understand your point: indeed FDPIC binaries work
> on a system with mmu, provided you have the right dynamic
> linker in the right place, as well as the needed runtime libs (libc, etc....)
> 
> Do you want me to change anything here?

I think the concern is that if the PT_INTERP name is the same for
binaries with different ABIs, you wouldn't be able to have both
present in the same root fs, and this would make it more of a pain to
debug fdpic binaries on a full (with-mmu) host.

musl always uses a different PT_INTERP name for each ABI combination,
so I guess the question is whether uclibc or whatever other libc
you're intending people to use would also want to do this.

> > > > +#undef     STARTFILE_SPEC
> > > > +#define STARTFILE_SPEC "%{!mno-fdpic:%{!shared:crtreloc.o%s}} " \
> > > > +  LINUX_OR_ANDROID_LD (GNU_USER_TARGET_STARTFILE_SPEC, ANDROID_STARTFILE_SPEC)
> > > > diff --git a/libsanitizer/configure.tgt b/libsanitizer/configure.tgt
> > > > index b241ddb..c38b3f4 100644
> > > > --- a/libsanitizer/configure.tgt
> > > > +++ b/libsanitizer/configure.tgt
> > > > @@ -45,6 +45,9 @@ case "${target}" in
> > > >     ;;
> > > >    sparc*-*-solaris2.11*)
> > > >     ;;
> > > > +  arm*-*-uclinuxfdpiceabi)
> > > > +   UNSUPPORTED=1
> > > > +   ;;
> > >
> > > musl libc has fdpic support on sh (e.g. with sh2eb-linux-muslfdpic
> > > target and --enable-fdpic), it can probably support fdpic on arm
> > > too with minimal changes, i assume the target name for that would
> > > be arm-linux-muslfdpiceabi.
> >
> > I plan to add ARM FDPIC support as soon as there is (1) published ABI
> > for relocation types, entry point contract, etc., and (2) there's
> 
> The ABI is here:
> https://github.com/mickael-guene/fdpic_doc/blob/master/abi.txt
> 
> > tooling to support it that's either upstream or can be applied as
> > clean patches to recent gcc (as opposed to some fork of gcc4 or
> > whatever it was this got started as). I think those conditions are
> > mostly met now.
> This patch series applies on gcc trunk as of ~2 weeks ago

Excellent news!

> > > so i think it is better to check arm*-*fdpiceabi where the libc
> > > does not matter (so we dont have to patch the same files when
> > > *-muslfdpiceabi support is added).
> >
> Looks sane.
> 
> > Yes, that would be appreciated. Maybe we could get musl ldso names
> > added at the same time, too? I think they should just be the same as
> > the existing musl ldso names but with "-fdpic" appended before
> > ".so.1".
> Do you mean updating config/arm/linux-eabi.h and adding -fdpic to the
> 4 musl dynamic linker names?

Yes, conditional on target being fdpic of course.

Rich

  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-15 15:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-15 12:40 [ARM/FDPIC v5 00/21] FDPIC ABI for ARM Christophe Lyon
2019-05-15 12:40 ` [ARM/FDPIC v5 01/21] [ARM] FDPIC: Add -mfdpic option support Christophe Lyon
2019-07-16 10:18   ` Richard Sandiford
2019-08-29 15:08     ` Christophe Lyon
2019-08-30 10:06       ` Richard Sandiford
2019-05-15 12:41 ` [ARM/FDPIC v5 04/21] [ARM] FDPIC: Add support for FDPIC for arm architecture Christophe Lyon
2019-07-16 12:33   ` Richard Sandiford
2019-08-20 17:13     ` Christophe Lyon
2019-08-29 15:39     ` Christophe Lyon
2019-09-02 16:12       ` Richard Sandiford
2019-09-02 20:04         ` Christophe Lyon
2019-09-03  8:40           ` Richard Sandiford
2019-09-04 19:59             ` Christophe Lyon
2019-09-05  8:03               ` Richard Sandiford
2019-05-15 12:41 ` [ARM/FDPIC v5 03/21] [ARM] FDPIC: Force FDPIC related options unless -mno-fdpic is provided Christophe Lyon
2019-05-15 13:55   ` Szabolcs Nagy
2019-05-15 14:37     ` Rich Felker
2019-05-15 15:12       ` Christophe Lyon
2019-05-15 15:37         ` Rich Felker [this message]
2019-05-15 15:59           ` Szabolcs Nagy
2019-05-15 16:07             ` Rich Felker
2019-05-21 15:29               ` Christophe Lyon
2019-05-21 15:48                 ` Rich Felker
2019-05-22  8:39                 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2019-05-22  8:45                   ` Christophe Lyon
2019-05-23 12:45                     ` Christophe Lyon
2019-07-16 10:38                       ` Richard Sandiford
2019-07-16 20:00                         ` Rich Felker
2019-08-01 10:13                         ` Christophe Lyon
2019-08-06 14:28                           ` Richard Sandiford
2019-08-29 15:14                         ` Christophe Lyon
2019-08-30  9:40                           ` Richard Sandiford
2019-05-15 12:41 ` [ARM/FDPIC v5 02/21] [ARM] FDPIC: Handle arm*-*-uclinuxfdpiceabi in configure scripts Christophe Lyon
2019-07-12  7:44   ` Richard Sandiford
2019-07-12 13:25     ` Christophe Lyon
2019-07-12 13:28       ` Richard Sandiford
2019-08-29 15:14     ` Christophe Lyon
2019-08-30  9:30       ` Richard Sandiford
2019-08-30 14:48         ` Christophe Lyon
2019-08-30 15:15           ` Richard Sandiford
2019-09-02  7:51             ` Christophe Lyon
2019-09-02  8:31               ` Richard Sandiford
2019-08-30 14:40       ` Jonathan Wakely
2019-05-15 12:41 ` [ARM/FDPIC v5 05/21] [ARM] FDPIC: Fix __do_global_dtors_aux and frame_dummy generation Christophe Lyon
2019-07-12  6:49   ` Richard Sandiford
2019-07-12 14:25     ` Christophe Lyon
2019-08-29 15:39     ` Christophe Lyon
2019-08-30  8:41       ` Richard Sandiford
2019-05-15 12:42 ` [ARM/FDPIC v5 07/21] [ARM] FDPIC: Avoid saving/restoring r9 on stack since it is read-only Christophe Lyon
2019-07-16 10:42   ` Kyrill Tkachov
2019-05-15 12:42 ` [ARM/FDPIC v5 06/21] [ARM] FDPIC: Add support for c++ exceptions Christophe Lyon
2019-08-30  9:31   ` Kyrill Tkachov
2019-08-30 14:44     ` Jonathan Wakely
2019-05-15 12:43 ` [ARM/FDPIC v5 08/21] [ARM] FDPIC: Enforce local/global binding for function descriptors Christophe Lyon
2019-07-16 10:51   ` Kyrill Tkachov
2019-05-15 12:43 ` [ARM/FDPIC v5 10/21] [ARM] FDPIC: Implement TLS support Christophe Lyon
2019-09-04 14:16   ` Kyrill Tkachov
2019-09-04 20:03     ` Christophe Lyon
2019-09-09  8:54       ` Christophe Lyon
2019-05-15 12:43 ` [ARM/FDPIC v5 09/21] [ARM] FDPIC: Add support for taking address of nested function Christophe Lyon
2019-07-16 11:53   ` Kyrill Tkachov
2019-07-16 13:31     ` Kyrill Tkachov
2019-07-31 14:48       ` Christophe Lyon
2019-08-29 15:40         ` Christophe Lyon
2019-08-30  8:54           ` Kyrill Tkachov
2019-05-15 12:44 ` [ARM/FDPIC v5 11/21] [ARM] FDPIC: Add support to unwind FDPIC signal frame Christophe Lyon
2019-09-04 14:19   ` Kyrill Tkachov
2019-05-15 12:44 ` [ARM/FDPIC v5 12/21] [ARM] FDPIC: Restore r9 after we call __aeabi_read_tp Christophe Lyon
2019-08-29 15:40   ` Christophe Lyon
2019-08-29 15:44   ` Kyrill Tkachov
2019-05-15 12:44 ` [ARM/FDPIC v5 13/21] [ARM] FDPIC: Force LSB bit for PC in Cortex-M architecture Christophe Lyon
2019-08-29 15:37   ` Kyrill Tkachov
2019-09-05  8:30     ` Christophe Lyon
2019-09-05  8:32       ` Christophe Lyon
2019-09-05 20:56         ` Ian Lance Taylor
2019-09-05  9:03       ` Kyrill Tkachov
2019-09-09  8:58         ` Christophe Lyon
2019-05-15 12:45 ` [ARM/FDPIC v5 16/21] [ARM][testsuite] FDPIC: Skip tests that don't work in PIC mode Christophe Lyon
2019-07-19  8:56   ` Kyrill Tkachov
2019-05-15 12:45 ` [ARM/FDPIC v5 14/21] [ARM][testsuite] FDPIC: Skip unsupported tests Christophe Lyon
2019-07-19  8:52   ` Kyrill Tkachov
2019-05-15 12:45 ` [ARM/FDPIC v5 15/21] [ARM][testsuite] FDPIC: Adjust scan-assembler patterns Christophe Lyon
2019-07-19  8:54   ` Kyrill Tkachov
2019-05-15 12:46 ` [ARM/FDPIC v5 17/21] [ARM][testsuite] FDPIC: Handle *-*-uclinux* Christophe Lyon
2019-07-19  8:57   ` Kyrill Tkachov
2019-07-22 19:37     ` Mike Stump
2019-05-15 12:46 ` [ARM/FDPIC v5 18/21] [ARM][testsuite] FDPIC: Enable tests on pie_enabled targets Christophe Lyon
2019-07-19  8:59   ` Kyrill Tkachov
2019-07-22 19:50     ` Mike Stump
2019-05-15 12:46 ` [ARM/FDPIC v5 19/21] [ARM][testsuite] FDPIC: Adjust pr43698.c to avoid clash with uclibc Christophe Lyon
2019-07-19  9:00   ` Kyrill Tkachov
2019-05-15 12:47 ` [ARM/FDPIC v5 20/21] [ARM][testsuite] FDPIC: Skip tests using architectures unsupported by FDPIC Christophe Lyon
2019-07-19  9:03   ` Kyrill Tkachov
2019-09-06  8:01     ` Christophe Lyon
2019-09-06  8:28       ` Kyrill Tkachov
2019-09-06  9:10         ` Christophe Lyon
2019-09-06 17:44           ` Christophe Lyon
2019-09-09  8:38             ` Christophe Lyon
2019-05-15 12:47 ` [ARM/FDPIC v5 21/21] [ARM] FDPIC: Handle stack-protector combined patterns Christophe Lyon
2019-07-19  9:40   ` Kyrill Tkachov
2019-05-23 12:46 ` [ARM/FDPIC v5 00/21] FDPIC ABI for ARM Christophe Lyon
2019-06-04 12:57   ` Christophe Lyon
2019-06-06 12:36     ` Christophe Lyon
2019-06-17 11:42       ` Christophe Lyon
2019-07-01 12:16         ` Christophe Lyon
2019-07-08 14:28           ` Christophe Lyon
2019-07-16  9:13             ` Christophe Lyon
2019-08-29 14:54 ` Christophe Lyon
2019-08-29 16:29   ` Christophe Lyon

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