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From: Jan Hubicka <hubicka@ucw.cz>
To: Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com>
Cc: "Jakub Jelinek" <jakub@redhat.com>,
	"Martin Liška" <mliska@suse.cz>, "Jeff Law" <law@redhat.com>,
	"GCC Patches" <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>,
	"Michael Matz" <matz@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Properly detect working jobserver in gcc driver.
Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2019 09:15:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190802091543.spbiwrpkfgmc3wil@kam.mff.cuni.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFiYyc2Qu_n=tDHiV98Hkf3HP6jFTw7n0K2R2OVwk67s2qSsnw@mail.gmail.com>

> On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 10:50 AM Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 02, 2019 at 10:47:10AM +0200, Martin Liška wrote:
> > > > Can you strace if other fds are opened and not closed in the spot you had it
> > > > before?  Advantage of doing it there is that it will not be done for all the
> > > > -E/-S/-c compilations when the linker is not spawned.
> > >
> > > I've used the same trick which you used and I'm attaching the output.
> > > I believe it's fine, I can't see any opened fd by GCC.
> >
> > LGTM.
> 
> Btw, we discussed yesterday on the phone and the conclusion was to
> make -flto auto-detect a job-server (but not fall back to # of threads)
> and add -flto=auto to auto-detect a job-server and fall back to # of threads.
> That basically makes -flto=jobserver the default behavior which means
> we should document -flto=1 as a way to override jobserver detection.

And concerning to the yesterday discussion, my preference would still be
-flto to first try presence of jobserver and default to number of
threads otherwise. It seems like user friendly default to me and other
tools with reasonable parallelism support usually behaves this way, too.

Sure one can use -flto=auto everywhere but then one needs to use
different options for differnt compilers.  It would be nice to make
-flto to do right hting for majority of users including those like me
who cut&paste command lines from Make output and execute them by hand.

The fork bombing is IMO relatively rare and it was not what Jakub ran
into (it was broken jobserv detection). 
After all whole distro built with Martin's orriginal approach of
-flto=<nthreads> which forkbombs on every possible occasion. 

Said that, I could live with more conservative defaults.
Honza

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-08-02  9:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-23  8:55 [PATCH] Come up with -flto=auto option Martin Liška
2019-07-23  9:29 ` Jan Hubicka
2019-07-23 10:34   ` [PATCH] Deduce automatically number of cores for -flto option Martin Liška
2019-07-24 15:47     ` Jeff Law
2019-07-29 13:37       ` Martin Liška
2019-07-30 13:47         ` Martin Liška
2019-07-31  1:23         ` Jakub Jelinek
2019-07-31  7:24           ` Martin Liška
2019-07-31  7:40             ` Jakub Jelinek
2019-07-31  7:49               ` Jan Hubicka
2019-07-31  7:50                 ` Martin Liška
2019-07-31  7:54               ` Martin Liška
2019-07-31  8:08                 ` Jakub Jelinek
2019-07-31  8:21                 ` Jan Hubicka
2019-07-31  8:37                   ` Martin Liška
2019-07-31  9:12                     ` Jakub Jelinek
2019-07-31  9:15                       ` Jan Hubicka
2019-07-31  9:17                         ` Jakub Jelinek
2019-07-31  9:22                           ` Jan Hubicka
2019-07-31 10:02                         ` Martin Liška
2019-07-31 12:02                           ` Jan Hubicka
2019-07-31 15:42                           ` Martin Liška
2019-08-01 13:19                             ` Jakub Jelinek
2019-08-01 14:34                               ` [PATCH] Properly detect working jobserver in gcc driver Martin Liška
2019-08-01 14:41                                 ` Jakub Jelinek
2019-08-02  6:30                                   ` Martin Liška
2019-08-02  7:45                                     ` Jakub Jelinek
2019-08-02  8:47                                       ` Martin Liška
2019-08-02  8:50                                         ` Jakub Jelinek
2019-08-02  9:04                                           ` Richard Biener
2019-08-02  9:08                                             ` Jan Hubicka
2019-08-02  9:15                                             ` Jan Hubicka [this message]
2019-08-02  9:19                                               ` Martin Liška
2019-08-02  9:55                                                 ` Richard Biener
2019-08-05  6:41                                                   ` Martin Liška
2019-08-09  8:14                                                     ` Martin Liška
2019-08-09  8:22                                                       ` Richard Biener
2019-08-09 12:51                                                         ` Martin Liška
2019-08-09 13:56                                                           ` Martin Liška
2019-08-12 15:18                                                             ` Jeff Law
2019-07-23 13:13   ` [PATCH] Come up with -flto=auto option Jeff Law
2019-07-23 13:22     ` Richard Biener
2019-07-23 13:57     ` Michael Matz
2019-07-23 14:00       ` Jeff Law
2019-07-23 14:27         ` Martin Liška
2019-07-23 22:56           ` Jeff Law
2019-07-24  6:59             ` Martin Liška
2019-07-24 15:16               ` Jeff Law
2019-07-23 22:32 ` Allan Sandfeld Jensen
2019-07-24  6:47   ` Martin Liška
2019-07-24  7:12     ` Allan Sandfeld Jensen
2019-07-24  7:15       ` Martin Liška
2019-07-24 11:09         ` Nathan Sidwell
2019-07-24 15:46 ` Jeff Law

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