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From: Alan Modra <amodra@gmail.com>
To: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: [RS6000] make PLT loads volatile
Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2020 09:30:02 +1030	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200313230002.GB23597@bubble.grove.modra.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200313154038.GR22482@gate.crashing.org>

On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 10:40:38AM -0500, Segher Boessenkool wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 10:06:01AM +1030, Alan Modra wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 11:57:17AM -0500, Segher Boessenkool wrote:
> > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 01:18:50PM +1030, Alan Modra wrote:
> > > > With lazy PLT resolution the first load of a PLT entry may be a value
> > > > pointing at a resolver stub.  gcc's loop processing can result in the
> > > > PLT load in inline PLT calls being hoisted out of a loop in the
> > > > mistaken idea that this is an optimisation.  It isn't.  If the value
> > > > hoisted was that for a resolver stub then every call to that function
> > > > in the loop will go via the resolver, slowing things down quite
> > > > dramatically.
> > > > 
> > > > The PLT really is volatile, so teach gcc about that.
> > > 
> > > It would be nice if we could keep it cached after it has been resolved
> > > once, this has potential for regressing performance if we don't?  And
> > > LD_BIND_NOW should keep working just as fast as it is now, too?
> > 
> > Using a call-saved register to cache a load out of the PLT looks
> > really silly
> 
> Who said anything about using call-saved registers?  GCC will usually
> make a stack slot for this, and only use a non-volatile register when
> that is profitable.  (I know it is a bit too aggressive with it, but
> that is a generic problem).

Using a stack slot comes about due to hoisting then running out of
call-saved registers in the loop.  Score another reason not to hoist
PLT loads.

> > when the inline PLT call is turned back into a direct
> > call by the linker.
> 
> Ah, so yeah, for direct calls we do not want this.  I was thinking this
> was about indirect calls (via a bctrl that is), dunno how I got that
> misperception.  Sorry.
> 
> What is this like for indirect calls (at C level)?  Does your patch do
> anything to those?

No effect at all.  To put your mind at rest on this point you can
verify quite easily by noticing that UNSPECV_PLT* is only generated in
rs6000_longcall_ref, and calls to that function are conditional on
GET_CODE (func_desc) == SYMBOL_REF.

-- 
Alan Modra
Australia Development Lab, IBM

  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-13 23:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-12  2:48 Alan Modra
2020-03-12 16:57 ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-03-12 23:36   ` Alan Modra
2020-03-13 15:40     ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-03-13 23:00       ` Alan Modra [this message]
2020-03-18 21:53         ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-03-23  1:51           ` [RS6000] PR94145, " Alan Modra
2020-03-26 17:12             ` Segher Boessenkool

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