On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 11:52:13AM +0000, Richard Sandiford wrote: > Lewis Hyatt writes: > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 06:11:08PM +0000, Richard Sandiford wrote: > >> Lewis Hyatt via Gcc-patches writes: > > ... > >> > FWIW there are three other options currently affected by this change > >> > (-Wimplicit-fallthrough, -fcf-protection, and -flive-patching). The change for > >> > -Wimplicit-fallthrough I think is particularly helpful: > >> > > >> > -Wimplicit-fallthrough Same as -Wimplicit-fallthrough=. Use the latter option instead. > >> > becomes > >> > -Wimplicit-fallthrough Same as -Wimplicit-fallthrough=3 (or, in negated form, -Wimplicit-fallthrough=0). > >> > >> I also see: > >> > >> - -ftail-call-workaround Same as -ftail-call-workaround=. Use the latter option instead. > >> + -ftail-call-workaround Same as -ftail-call-workaround=1 (or, in negated form, -ftail-call-workaround=0). > >> -ftail-call-workaround=<0,2> Disallow tail call optimization when a calling routine may have omitted character lengths. > >> ... > >> --imacros Same as -imacros. Use the latter option instead. > >> --imacros= Same as -imacros. Use the latter option instead. > >> --include Same as -include. Use the latter option instead. > >> - --include-barrier Same as -I. Use the latter option instead. > >> + --include-barrier Same as -I-. > >> --include-directory Same as -I. Use the latter option instead. > >> --include-directory-after Same as -idirafter. Use the latter option instead. > >> --include-directory-after= Same as -idirafter. Use the latter option instead. > >> ... > >> - -Wnormalized Same as -Wnormalized=. Use the latter option instead. > >> + -Wnormalized Same as -Wnormalized=nfc (or, in negated form, -Wnormalized=none). > >> -Wnormalized=[none|id|nfc|nfkc] Warn about non-normalized Unicode strings. > >> > >> I agree all of these look like improvements, especially the > >> --include-barrier one. But I think the include ones also show > >> that the "Use the latter option instead." decision is independent > >> of whether the option is defined to be an alias. > > Gah, I meant an Alias() with an argument here. > > >> > >> FWIW, there's also: > >> > >> Wmissing-format-attribute > >> C ObjC C++ ObjC++ Warning Alias(Wsuggest-attribute=format) > >> ; > >> > >> which still ends up as: > >> > >> -Wmissing-format-attribute Same as -Wsuggest-attribute=format. Use the latter option instead. > >> > >> Not really my area though, so I don't have any specific suggestion > >> about how to separate the cases. > >> > > > > Right, sorry, in my first email I only mentioned the options output by > > --help=common, but there were a few more as well. Thanks very much for trying > > it out and for the feedback. > > > > The rule I implemented was to change the help output for all alias options > > with no documentation if they also specify the extra 2nd option (or 2nd and > > 3rd options) to the Alias directive. For example, -include-barrier is like this: > > > > -include-barrier C ObjC C++ ObjC++ Alias(I, -) > > > > It serves to provide the argument '-' to the option '-I', so it is eligible for > > the new text. The others are like this one: > > > > -include-directory-after C ObjC C++ ObjC++ Separate Alias(idirafter) MissingArgError(missing path after %qs) > > > > Since that one doesn't pass the extra args to Alias, I interpreted it to > > mean this is the case for which the "Use the latter option" directive was > > intended to apply. (-idirafter has been designated as preferable to > > -include-directory-after). > > Yeah, I get why you did it like this. It's just that the end effect > is to make --include-barrier seem less disparaged than the other > --include-* options, but I'm not sure there's supposed to be any > difference between them in that respect. > > Perhaps we should drop the "Use the latter option instead." thing > altogether for aliases. I'm not sure that it really helps, and this > thread shows that adding it automatically can lead to some odd corner > cases. > > In practice we shouldn't remove any of these aliases unless we're > also removing the option that they're an alias of. And if we do that, > the options should go through the usual deprecation cycle, just like > options without aliases. > > If there are specific options that we want to steer users away > from without deprecation, then we should probably have a specific > tag for that. Thanks, it makes sense to me. That would amount to changing just one line of the patch then, so it would look instead like the attached. -Lewis