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From: Michael Meissner <meissner@linux.ibm.com>
To: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Michael Meissner <meissner@linux.ibm.com>,
	gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org, David Edelsohn <dje.gcc@gmail.com>,
	Bill Schmidt <wschmidt@linux.ibm.com>,
	Peter Bergner <bergner@linux.ibm.com>,
	Will Schmidt <will_schmidt@vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] Add IEEE 128-bit min/max support on PowerPC.
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 15:00:02 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210628190002.GB24302@ibm-toto.the-meissners.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210623235637.GI5077@gate.crashing.org>

On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 06:56:37PM -0500, Segher Boessenkool wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 03:18:48PM -0400, Michael Meissner wrote:
> > > The actual insns only check TARGET_POWER10 (so no TARGET_FLOAT128_HW).
> > > Which is right, this or that?
> > 
> > It should include TARGET_FLOAT128_HW.
> 
> Okay, so fix that :-)


> > The problem area is a power10 running in
> > big endian mode and running 32-bit code.  Because we don't have TImode, we
> > can't enable the IEEE 128-bit hardware instructions.
> 
> I don't see why not?
> 
> > > > +/* { dg-require-effective-target ppc_float128_hw } */
> > > > +/* { dg-require-effective-target power10_ok } */
> > > > +/* { dg-options "-mdejagnu-cpu=power10 -O2 -ffast-math" } */
> > > 
> > > In testcases we can assume that float128_hw is set whenever we have a
> > > p10; we don't manually disable it to make live hard for ourselves ;-)
> > 
> > Again, I put it in case somebody builds a BE power10 compiler.
> 
> This should still be fixed.  And yes, people do test BE p10, of course.
> And BE p10 *should* enable the QP float insns.  Does it not currently?

GCC does not enable __float128 by default on BE.  The reason is there are no
plans to enable all of the float128 support in glibc in BE.  Without a library,
it is kind of useless to enable __float128.

If the compiler enabled __float128, It breaks things that check if __float128
is avaiable.  They think __float128 is available, and then they fail when when
they can't anything besides basic arithmetic.

Because the compiler is configured not to enable __float128 in a BE context, we
don't build the __float128 emulator in libgcc.

In addition, BE GCC runs on things that does not have GLIBC (like AIX).  If we
enabled it by default, it would break those environments.

A further complication is BE by default is still power4 or power5.  You need
VSX support to even pass __float128 arguments.  While it is possible to pass
__float128 in GPRs, you run into compatibility issues if one module is compiled
with VSX and another is compiled without setting a base cpu, because one module
will expect things in GPRs and the other in Altivec registers.

And as I've said, the issue with 32-bit move is we don't have TImode support.
Some of the machine indepenent passes want to use an appropriate integer type
to move basic types.

-- 
Michael Meissner, IBM
IBM, M/S 2506R, 550 King Street, Littleton, MA 01460-6245, USA
email: meissner@linux.ibm.com, phone: +1 (978) 899-4797

  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-28 19:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-09  0:17 [PATCH 0/3] Add Power10 IEEE 128-bit min, max, conditional move Michael Meissner
2021-06-09  0:21 ` [PATCH 1/3] Add IEEE 128-bit min/max support on PowerPC Michael Meissner
2021-06-17  0:32   ` Ping: " Michael Meissner
2021-06-17 17:39   ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-06-17 19:18     ` Michael Meissner
2021-06-23 23:56       ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-06-28 19:00         ` Michael Meissner [this message]
2021-06-30 17:35           ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-06-09  0:22 ` [PATCH 2/3] Fix IEEE 128-bit min/max test Michael Meissner
2021-06-17  0:33   ` Ping: " Michael Meissner
2021-06-17 18:11   ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-06-17 19:24     ` Michael Meissner
2021-06-17 20:11     ` Michael Meissner
2021-06-25 17:46       ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-06-28 18:41         ` Michael Meissner
2021-06-17 22:56     ` [PATCH 2/3 V2] " Michael Meissner
2021-06-23 19:08       ` Ping: " Michael Meissner
2021-06-23 19:20         ` Michael Meissner
2021-06-30  0:06       ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-06-30 16:25         ` Michael Meissner
2021-06-09  0:24 ` [PATCH 3/3] Add IEEE 128-bit fp conditional move on PowerPC Michael Meissner
2021-06-17  0:34   ` Ping: " Michael Meissner
2021-06-23 19:09   ` Michael Meissner
2021-06-30 19:07   ` Segher Boessenkool

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