From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Michael Meissner <meissner@linux.ibm.com>,
David Edelsohn <dje.gcc@gmail.com>,
GCC Patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>,
Bill Schmidt <wschmidt@linux.ibm.com>,
Peter Bergner <bergner@linux.ibm.com>,
Will Schmidt <will_schmidt@vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Move xx* builtins to vsx.md.
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2021 17:18:48 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210819221848.GR1583@gate.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YR7W5t9RW4V7fLI9@toto.the-meissners.org>
On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 06:10:46PM -0400, Michael Meissner wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 06:11:03PM -0500, Segher Boessenkool wrote:
> > I think the current vector.md / altivec.md / vsx.md / rs6000.md
> > division is artificial at best. Most of the basic (movement etc.)
> > things are in rs6000.md (and all should be), but nothing else is clear.
> >
> > The name "altivec.md" suggests it is only for the very old things, but
> > it is not used that way, and that it untenable anyway: we have more
> > recent insns to plug holes in that (for example 64-bit integer support),
> > so it arguably is not just for that.
> >
> > Using it for instructions that only work on the high 32 VSRs (i.e. the
> > VRs) is quite artificial as well -- sometimes there are equivalent insns
> > for the other 32 VSRs already, sometimes it is just because of opcode
> > scarcity, sometimes it is because it is for the slow vector unit only
> > (but those seem to live in rs6000.md and crypto.md anyway).
> >
> > Maybe we should give up on dividing these things, and put both in one
> > file, say vector.md?
>
> Yes but that is more ambitious.
Absolutely. But setting a destination before starting to walk is
sometimes helpful ;-)
> Basically I have 2 patches coming that use and
> update the xxsplti instructions. I can avoid putting in this specific change
> and reformulate them for altivec.md instead of vsx.md. Or I can check in these
> changes. Which do you want? I don't want to do both insn movement and new
> patches at the same time.
I am fine with this patch, it is a clear improvement already.
> The original design of vector.md was to allow for alternate vector units, and
> vector.md was just the define_expands. But the likely hood of new vector units
> is probably low.
Right, history has caught up with us.
> When I wrote vsx.md in the power7 days, we were toying with the notion of doing
> VSX and not Altivec instructions. But I quickly realized you always need
> Altivec for VSX.
There also were 8-byte vectors back then. Or was that completely
separate code?
> In general, I would prefer not to have a flag day where everything gets moved
> all at once.
Yup, it is too easy to make mistakes here, ordering in machine
descriptions is significant. Although comparing the generated insn-*
files before and after might help.
Segher
prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-08-19 22:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-08-13 4:20 Michael Meissner
2021-08-18 20:01 ` Bill Schmidt
2021-08-18 20:42 ` David Edelsohn
2021-08-18 23:11 ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-08-19 22:10 ` Michael Meissner
2021-08-19 22:18 ` Segher Boessenkool [this message]
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