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From: "Martin Liška" <mliska@suse.cz>
To: Jan Hubicka <hubicka@ucw.cz>, Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>
Cc: Jeff Law <law@redhat.com>,
	gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org, Michael Matz <matz@suse.de>,
	Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Deduce automatically number of cores for -flto option.
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 07:50:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <217ef7a3-7726-04fa-3bd5-ca5b10844091@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190731074019.b4l6pwcpeh2q2zai@kam.mff.cuni.cz>

On 7/31/19 9:40 AM, Jan Hubicka wrote:
>> Neither will work very well, we have thousands of -flto tests outside of
>> lto.exp, e.g. dg-torture.exp (or libgomp and others) cycle through various
>> options including -flto etc.
>>
>> Some env var would be useful I guess, though shouldn't it have GCC in the
>> name?  I mean, if we run into these fork-bomb problems in gcc, won't other
>> projects run into those as well?
>>
>> Why doesn't the jobserver work in the tests?  Is that because of missing +
>> somewhere in the Makefiles or is something unsetting MFLAGS or MAKEFLAGS
>> env vars?
> 
> Main trouble with make's jobserver is that it works by 
> 1) defining environment variable saying which file descriptior to
> connect to
> 2) keeping the file descriptor open upon invoking "+" prefixed lines
> 
> Adding "+" to GCC invocation is wrong since it breaks dry run (we do not
> want to link at that time) but it is only way to access the jobserver.
> If "+" is not present, make will keep the environment vairable but will
> close file descriptors prior exec.
> 
> Make developers said that this is because some old prorams misbehave
> when you exec them with more than 3 file descriptors open. I tried to
> negotiate for named pipe which would solve this and it would make it
> easy to connect to outermost jobserver from anything invoked form
> toplevel make, but they was worried about systems w/o named pipes.

Yes a more generic approach would be welcome as other build systems
would also be able to utilize it.

> 
> I wonder why we do not detect jobserv as unavailable in this case and do
> not default to -flto=<numthreads>?

We do not detect jobserver because of Dejagnu is not using it.
And yes, we default to -flto=<numthreads> in LTO tests now. That's
what is causing issues right now.

> Is it because dejagnu machinery actually opens some other file
> descriptor that gets same ID and executes us with it?
> 
> Or does LTO wrapper open something prior accessing jobserver?
> 
>>
>> Though, as I said on IRC, I think we might run out of filedescriptors when
>> using jobserver too, say if on 64 thread machine one does make -j64 -k check
>> and each test simultaneously tries to create 64 partitions, that would be
>> 4096 connections to the jobserver, right?
> 
> Only WPA process connects to jobserver (which is 1 per linker
> invokation), so I think this should be safe.

Yes and it's only about a quick fcntl. But as mentioned, Dejagnu is not passing
us jobserver, so we don't do it right now.

Martin

> 
> Honza
>>
>> 	Jakub

  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-31  7:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-23  8:55 [PATCH] Come up with -flto=auto option Martin Liška
2019-07-23  9:29 ` Jan Hubicka
2019-07-23 10:34   ` [PATCH] Deduce automatically number of cores for -flto option Martin Liška
2019-07-24 15:47     ` Jeff Law
2019-07-29 13:37       ` Martin Liška
2019-07-30 13:47         ` Martin Liška
2019-07-31  1:23         ` Jakub Jelinek
2019-07-31  7:24           ` Martin Liška
2019-07-31  7:40             ` Jakub Jelinek
2019-07-31  7:49               ` Jan Hubicka
2019-07-31  7:50                 ` Martin Liška [this message]
2019-07-31  7:54               ` Martin Liška
2019-07-31  8:08                 ` Jakub Jelinek
2019-07-31  8:21                 ` Jan Hubicka
2019-07-31  8:37                   ` Martin Liška
2019-07-31  9:12                     ` Jakub Jelinek
2019-07-31  9:15                       ` Jan Hubicka
2019-07-31  9:17                         ` Jakub Jelinek
2019-07-31  9:22                           ` Jan Hubicka
2019-07-31 10:02                         ` Martin Liška
2019-07-31 12:02                           ` Jan Hubicka
2019-07-31 15:42                           ` Martin Liška
2019-08-01 13:19                             ` Jakub Jelinek
2019-08-01 14:34                               ` [PATCH] Properly detect working jobserver in gcc driver Martin Liška
2019-08-01 14:41                                 ` Jakub Jelinek
2019-08-02  6:30                                   ` Martin Liška
2019-08-02  7:45                                     ` Jakub Jelinek
2019-08-02  8:47                                       ` Martin Liška
2019-08-02  8:50                                         ` Jakub Jelinek
2019-08-02  9:04                                           ` Richard Biener
2019-08-02  9:08                                             ` Jan Hubicka
2019-08-02  9:15                                             ` Jan Hubicka
2019-08-02  9:19                                               ` Martin Liška
2019-08-02  9:55                                                 ` Richard Biener
2019-08-05  6:41                                                   ` Martin Liška
2019-08-09  8:14                                                     ` Martin Liška
2019-08-09  8:22                                                       ` Richard Biener
2019-08-09 12:51                                                         ` Martin Liška
2019-08-09 13:56                                                           ` Martin Liška
2019-08-12 15:18                                                             ` Jeff Law
2019-07-23 13:13   ` [PATCH] Come up with -flto=auto option Jeff Law
2019-07-23 13:22     ` Richard Biener
2019-07-23 13:57     ` Michael Matz
2019-07-23 14:00       ` Jeff Law
2019-07-23 14:27         ` Martin Liška
2019-07-23 22:56           ` Jeff Law
2019-07-24  6:59             ` Martin Liška
2019-07-24 15:16               ` Jeff Law
2019-07-23 22:32 ` Allan Sandfeld Jensen
2019-07-24  6:47   ` Martin Liška
2019-07-24  7:12     ` Allan Sandfeld Jensen
2019-07-24  7:15       ` Martin Liška
2019-07-24 11:09         ` Nathan Sidwell
2019-07-24 15:46 ` Jeff Law

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