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From: Aldy Hernandez <aldyh@redhat.com>
To: Richard Biener <rguenther@suse.de>
Cc: gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org, Andrew MacLeod <amacleod@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fixup possible VR_ANTI_RANGE value_range issues
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2023 11:28:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3d8958b1-cae5-dfe0-c63f-6c326bb340aa@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <nycvar.YFH.7.77.849.2303011007060.27913@jbgna.fhfr.qr>



On 3/1/23 11:12, Richard Biener wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Mar 2023, Aldy Hernandez wrote:
> 
>>
>>
>> On 2/28/23 10:41, Richard Biener wrote:
>>> On Mon, 27 Feb 2023, Aldy Hernandez wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2/27/23 14:58, Richard Biener wrote:
>>>>> After fixing PR107561 the following avoids looking at VR_ANTI_RANGE
>>>>> ranges where it doesn't seem obvious the code does the correct
>>>>> thing here (lower_bound and upper_bound do not work as expected).
>>>>
>>>> I do realize there's some confusion here, and some of it is my fault. This
>>>> has
>>>> become obvious in my upcoming work removing all of legacy.
>>>>
>>>> What's going on is that ultimately min/max are broken with (non-legacy)
>>>> iranges.  Or at the very least inconsistent between legacy and non-legacy.
>>>> These are left over from the legacy world, and have been marked DEPRECATED
>>>> for
>>>> a few releases, but the middle end warnings continued to use them and even
>>>> added new uses after they were obsoleted.
>>>>
>>>> min/max have different meanings depending on kind(), which is also
>>>> deprecated,
>>>> btw.  They are the underlying min/max fields from the legacy
>>>> implementation,
>>>> and thus somewhat leak the implementation details. Unfortunately, they are
>>>> being called from non-legacy code which is ignoring the kind() field.
>>>>
>>>> In retrospect I should've converted everything away from min/max/kind years
>>>> ago, or at the very least converted min/max to work with non-legacy more
>>>> consistently.
>>>>
>>>> For the record:
>>>>
>>>>     enum value_range_kind kind () const;		// DEPRECATED
>>>>     tree min () const;				// DEPRECATED
>>>>     tree max () const;				// DEPRECATED
>>>>     bool symbolic_p () const;			// DEPRECATED
>>>>     bool constant_p () const;			// DEPRECATED
>>>>     void normalize_symbolics ();			// DEPRECATED
>>>>     void normalize_addresses ();			// DEPRECATED
>>>>     bool may_contain_p (tree) const;		// DEPRECATED
>>>>     bool legacy_verbose_union_ (const class irange *);	// DEPRECATED
>>>>     bool legacy_verbose_intersect (const irange *);	// DEPRECATED
>>>>
>>>> In my local branch I tried converting all the middle-end legacy API uses to
>>>> the new API, but a bunch of tests started failing, and lots more false
>>>> positives started showing up in correct code.  I suspect that's part of the
>>>> reason legacy continued to be used in these passes :-/.  As you point out
>>>> in
>>>> the PR, the tests seem designed to test the current (at times broken)
>>>> implementation.
>>>>
>>>> That being said, the 5 fixes in your patch are not wrong to begin with,
>>>> because all uses guard lower_bound() and upper_bound() which work
>>>> correctly.
>>>> They return the lowest and uppermost possible bound for the range (ignoring
>>>> the underlying implementation).  So, the lower bound of a signed non-zero
>>>> is
>>>> -INF because ~[0,0] is really [-INF,-1][1,+INF]. In the min/max legacy
>>>> code,
>>>> min() of signed non-zero (~[0,0]) is 0.  The new implementation has no
>>>> concept
>>>> of anti-ranges, and we don't leak any of that out.
>>>>
>>>> Any uses of min/max without looking at kind() are definitely broken. OTOH
>>>> uses
>>>> of lower/upper_bound are fine and should work with both legacy and
>>>> non-legacy.
>>>>
>>>> Unrelated, but one place where I haven't been able to convince myself that
>>>> the
>>>> use is correct is bounds_of_var_in_loop:
>>>>
>>>>> /* Check if init + nit * step overflows.  Though we checked
>>>>>          scev {init, step}_loop doesn't wrap, it is not enough
>>>>>          because the loop may exit immediately.  Overflow could
>>>>>          happen in the plus expression in this case.  */
>>>>>       if ((dir == EV_DIR_DECREASES
>>>>>            && compare_values (maxvr.min (), initvr.min ()) != -1)
>>>>>           || (dir == EV_DIR_GROWS
>>>>>        && compare_values (maxvr.max (), initvr.max ()) != 1))
>>>>
>>>> Ughh...this is all slated to go away, and I have patches removing all of
>>>> legacy and the old API.
>>>>
>>>> Does this help?  Do you still think lower and upper bound are not working
>>>> as
>>>> expected?
>>>
>>> lower_bound/upper_bound work as expected,
>>> tree_lower_bound/tree_upper_bound do not.  I've checked and all uses
>>> I "fixed" use lower_bound/upper_boud.
>>>
>>> tree_lower_bound & friends are 'protected', but in the above light the
>>> comment
>>>
>>>     // potential promotion to public?
>>>
>>> looks dangerous (I was considering using them ...).
>>
>> First of all, my apologies for the time you've spent on this.  This needed
>> cleaning up a few releases ago, but with legacy in place, it kept getting
>> pushed further away.  This is my first order of business once stage1 opens.
>> That being said, thank you for spot checking this.
>>
>> It looks like tree_lower_bound was just syntactic sugar for m_base[pair * 2].
>> The comment is likely wrong.  It should've stayed protected, or nuked in favor
>> of accessing m_base directly to avoid confusion.
>>
>>>
>>> I'm dropping the patch, it's probably time to work on getting rid of
>>> 'value_range' uses (aka legacy_mode_p ()) and/or replace raw accesses
>>> to the min/max for that mode with m_base accesses?  At least
>>> that there's tree_{upper,lower}_bound for pair != 0 suggests this
>>> function is used with differing semantics internally which is a
>>
>> My local tree has a few dozen patches removing legacy and converting the trees
>> to wide_int.  In my work, legacy_mode_p, min, max, kind, tree_lower_bound, etc
>> are all gone.  I can make the branch public if you like.
>>
>>> source of confusion (to me at least).  tree_{lower,upper}_bound
>>> should be able to assert it's not a legacy mode range and
>>> min/max should be able to assert that it is.
>>
>> Agreed.  One possible problem *may be* vr-values.cc which still uses min() and
>> max() throughout can be called on legacy as well as non-legacy.
>>
>> This unfortunately means that since kind/min/max will return different results
>> for legacy/non-legacy (kind() never returns VR_ANTI_RANGE for non-legacy),
>> simplify_using_ranges can theoretically give different results depending on
>> how it's called.  In practice, only DOM/VRP call simplify_using_ranges and
>> always with non-legacy.  However, simplify_using_ranges uses get_value_range()
>> internally which uses legacy.  Sorry, I just realized this now while auditing
>> the code.
>>
>> I honestly have no idea if this matters in practice, and since this has been
>> this way for a few releases, I'm afraid of touching it so late in the cycle.
>> But I'm happy to help if you think it must be fixed in this release.
>>
>> Hmmmm, it looks like there are just a few non-legacy uses in vr-values.cc
>> (int_range<2> and int_range_max), and never in code paths checking
>> min/max/kind.  So your suggestions about the asserts may be all we need,
>> dunno.
>>
>>>
>>> Btw, legacy_upper_bound looks wrong:
>>>
>>>     if (m_kind == VR_ANTI_RANGE)
>>>       {
>>>         tree typ = type (), t;
>>>         if (pair == 1 || vrp_val_is_min (min ()))
>>>           t = vrp_val_max (typ);
>>>         else
>>>           t = wide_int_to_tree (typ, wi::to_wide (min ()) - 1);
>>>
>>> not sure what the pair == 1 case is about, but the upper bound
>>> of an anti-range is only special when max() is vrp_val_is_max,
>>> aka ~[low, +INF] where it then is low - 1, but the above checks
>>> for ~[-INF, high] and returns +INF in that case.  That's correct
>>> unless high == +INF at least, but the else case is wrong for
>>> all high != +INF?
>>
>> An anti-range is really two pairs.  So, ~[6,9] is really:
>>
>> [-MIN, 5][10, MAX]
>>
>> Pair 0 is [-MIN, 5] and pair 1 is [10, MAX].  This means that the upper bound
>> for the pair==1 case is just MAX.
>>
>>>
>>> I think it should be
>>>
>>>         if (pair == 1 || !vrp_val_is_max (max ()))
>>>           t = vrp_val_max (typ);
>>>         else
>>>           t = wide_int_to_tree (typ, wi::to_wide (min ()) - 1);
>>>
>>> no?
>>
>> I think both of us are wrong.  The original vrp_val_is_min(min()) call will
>> always return false.  And your !vrp_val_is_max(max()) is always true.  This is
>> because irange::set() will normalize anti-ranges into a VR_RANGE when
>> possible, in order to avoid multiple representations for the same range:
>>
>>        else if (is_min)
>>          {
>> 	  tree one = build_int_cst (TREE_TYPE (max), 1);
>> 	  min = int_const_binop (PLUS_EXPR, max, one);
>> 	  max = vrp_val_max (TREE_TYPE (max));
>> 	  kind = VR_RANGE;
>>          }
>>        else if (is_max)
>>          {
>> 	  tree one = build_int_cst (TREE_TYPE (min), 1);
>> 	  max = int_const_binop (MINUS_EXPR, min, one);
>> 	  min = vrp_val_min (TREE_TYPE (min));
>> 	  kind = VR_RANGE;
>>          }
>>
>> So ~[-MIN,5] is represented as [6,MAX] and ~[5,+MAX] as [-MIN,4].
>>
>> Ughhh... so it looks like legacy_upper_bound is correct, but the
>> vrp_val_is_min() check is useless.
>>
>> Am I missing something?
> 
> Well, you are missing that VR_ANTI_RANGE only has a single pair in
> m_base[], so it's _not_ represented as [-MIN, 5][10, MAX].  So you
> say that for VR_ANTI_RANGE we should never ask for legacy_upper_bound (0)
> but always legaacy_upper_bound (1)?

That is actually on purpose, so lower_bound() and upper_bound() work 
correctly from both legacy and non-legacy.  The user shouldn't care 
whether the range is internally implemented with VR_ANTI_RANGE or not. 
The ultimate goal is to only use lower_bound and upper_bound.  Even 
kind() will be gone from the API.

Imagine ~[6,9] which to the user is:

[-MIN, 5][10, MAX]

legacy_upper_bound(0) is 5
legacy_upper_bound(1) is MAX

Think of it in terms of what the user, with no implementation details, 
would understand as a range.

> 
> Btw, I didn't see in ::verify where we verify proper normalization
> so after some range ops it might be in non normalized form.

range-ops uses the irange API, so ranges coming out of it should be 
canonicalized.  If they're not.  That's a bug and should be fixed.

> 
> That said - as this is all going away tampering with it looks less
> useful than ripping it out ...

I can share my work if you like.  But yes, it's all going away very soon 
after the start of stage1.  I'm sitting on 35 small incremental patches 
removing legacy, etc.  The only hold out are a handful of uses in the 
middle-end warnings for which I have provided get_legacy_range() which 
returns kind/min/max as legacy currently does.  This is because the 
middle end warnings break when "fixed" correctly, and honestly I don't 
understand them to fix them properly.

> 
> Anyway, see the series I posted which I ended up with in understanding
> the code.  Appearantly I misunderstood the intent of the current state,
> mainly because of lack of documentation I guess :/

Sorry, I'm not remotely as good as you at reviewing patches.  I'm on it, 
but it's slow going ;-).

That being said, I'll go on the record saying that I'm on documentation 
writing duty later this year.  It's long overdue.

> 
> I do wonder if s/value_range/int_range<2>/ throughout most code is
> the correct thing to do and what the actual hurdles are in the end.

Indeed.  I've also done that in my branch, while fixing a few warts. 
For that matter, with legacy gone, we can repurpose int_range<1> for a 
simple, two-end range (less memory too).

Aldy


  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-01 10:28 UTC|newest]

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2023-02-27 16:08 ` Aldy Hernandez
2023-02-28  9:41   ` Richard Biener
2023-03-01 10:01     ` Aldy Hernandez
2023-03-01 10:12       ` Richard Biener
2023-03-01 10:28         ` Aldy Hernandez [this message]
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2023-03-11 16:16 ` Jeff Law
2023-02-27 13:58 Richard Biener

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