From: Jeff Law <law@redhat.com>
To: Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com>,
Aldy Hernandez <aldyh@redhat.com>
Cc: Martin Sebor <msebor@gmail.com>, gcc-patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: protected alloca class for malloc fallback
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 16:28:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3f8d451d-557d-fb96-7747-dea1c6540cd4@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <283F73AD-B7CD-4389-908C-BBF479DF9101@gmail.com>
On 08/10/2016 12:33 PM, Richard Biener wrote:
>>>
>>> Why would you want to get rid of the alloca here?
>> Do you know the range for LENGTH in the code above?
>
> Yes, it's a set of tree code names.
>
> Is it based on
>> something the user could potentially control (like a variable name,
>> typdef name, etc). If you don't know the length or it's possibly
>> under
>>
>> the control of the user, then this can blow out the stack, which
>> makes the code vulnerable to a stack shifting style attack by which
>> further writes into the stack are actually writing into other parts
>> of the stack, the heap, plt or some other location. Essentially
>> this gives an
>>
>> attacker control over one or more stores to memory, which is often
>> enough of a vulnerability to mount an attack.
>
> Yes, I understand that. The above is not such a case. If an
> attacker can trick me into compiling (and possibly executing) his
> code then things are lost anyway. No need for a fancy buffer
> overflow.
I think you're being rather short-sighed here. GCC is being used in
ways we can't necessarily predict -- which might include compile
servers, JITs, web services, etc.
In those kind of environments I think you have a significantly different
threat model and GCC itself becomes part of the attack surface.
There's existing web sites I'm pretty sure I could compromise if I had
the interest by exploiting bugs in GCC and libiberty.
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-08-16 16:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-08-04 11:30 Aldy Hernandez
2016-08-04 12:58 ` Richard Biener
2016-08-04 15:19 ` Aldy Hernandez
2016-08-04 19:24 ` Jeff Law
2016-08-05 14:37 ` Aldy Hernandez
2016-08-05 15:15 ` Pedro Alves
2016-08-05 16:23 ` Jeff Law
2016-08-05 17:48 ` Richard Biener
2016-08-05 8:17 ` Richard Biener
2016-08-04 19:06 ` Pedro Alves
2016-08-04 19:16 ` Jeff Law
2016-08-04 19:22 ` Pedro Alves
2016-08-04 19:26 ` Jeff Law
2016-08-04 19:31 ` Pedro Alves
2016-08-05 2:10 ` Martin Sebor
2016-08-05 14:42 ` Aldy Hernandez
2016-08-05 17:56 ` Richard Biener
2016-08-05 18:16 ` Oleg Endo
2016-08-05 20:07 ` Richard Biener
2016-08-06 10:09 ` Aldy Hernandez
2016-08-06 10:15 ` Aldy Hernandez
2016-08-06 15:08 ` Richard Biener
2016-08-08 17:00 ` Jeff Law
2016-08-08 17:32 ` Trevor Saunders
2016-08-08 19:03 ` Richard Biener
2016-08-09 11:34 ` Oleg Endo
2016-08-09 17:34 ` Trevor Saunders
2016-08-10 17:03 ` Oleg Endo
2016-08-11 1:23 ` Trevor Saunders
2016-08-11 12:18 ` Oleg Endo
2016-08-11 17:55 ` Trevor Saunders
2016-08-20 2:29 ` Mike Stump
2016-08-21 20:00 ` C++11? (Re: protected alloca class for malloc fallback) Pedro Alves
2016-08-22 7:10 ` Trevor Saunders
2016-08-22 7:28 ` Richard Biener
2016-08-22 12:02 ` Eric Gallager
2016-08-22 12:58 ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2016-08-22 22:08 ` Mike Stump
2016-08-23 23:17 ` Eric Gallager
2016-08-09 13:17 ` protected alloca class for malloc fallback Aldy Hernandez
2016-08-09 13:21 ` Bernd Schmidt
2016-08-10 10:04 ` Richard Biener
2016-08-10 10:12 ` Aldy Hernandez
2016-08-10 10:39 ` Richard Biener
2016-08-10 18:00 ` Jeff Law
2016-08-10 18:33 ` Richard Biener
2016-08-16 16:28 ` Jeff Law [this message]
2016-08-16 16:44 ` Jakub Jelinek
2016-08-16 16:47 ` Jeff Law
2016-08-16 17:54 ` Martin Sebor
2016-08-17 8:27 ` Richard Biener
2016-08-17 13:39 ` Martin Sebor
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