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From: Basile STARYNKEVITCH <basile@starynkevitch.net>
To: Tom Tromey <tromey@redhat.com>
Cc: gcc-patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Patch: automatic dependencies for gcc
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:47:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47EA668A.4060905@starynkevitch.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m37ifplh7g.fsf@fleche.redhat.com>

Hello All,

Tom Tromey wrote:
>>>>>> "Basile" == Basile STARYNKEVITCH <basile@starynkevitch.net> writes:
> 
> Basile> MELT is able to generate C code and to tldl_dlopenext (almost like
> Basile> dlopen-ing a dynamic library) the binary dynamically loadable stuff (a
> Basile> *.so ELF shared object on Linux & Solaris...) obtained from the
> Basile> generated code. Notice that this code generation and dynamic loading
> Basile> may happen within cc1 (for some peculiar long-lasting passes and
> Basile> compile flags).
> 
> Ok.
> 
> Are you plugging passes into a cross compiler?

Yes, MELT is basically a [possibly generated] plugin stuff. The passes 
are at the GIMPLE level, so it could be a cross compiler.

> 
> It seems to me that if you are only working with native compilers,
> then it would be easy to just build these objects with the installed
> gcc, and that would let you simplify the build stuff a bit.
> 
> Basile> run-basilys.d: run-basilys.h \
> [...]
> 
> Cute trick :-)
> 
> Basile>  Maybe using depcomp could help, but I don't know how.
> 
> For depcomp, you must first discover "dependency mode" of the compiler
> you plan to use.  There's some configure code to do this.  Then you
> run it as a wrapper around the compiler, with some variable settings
> to tell it what to do.
> 
> If you're doing this stuff in the context of gcc/Makefile, you can
> just use the infrastructure there.  It will already know properties of
> the compiler.
> 
> If you're doing this at gcc-runtime, well... simplest would be to make
> the user pick a compiler, preferably gcc; then just always use that
> one and code its properties into whatever Makefile you use at runtime.

The gcc/Makefile.in of the MELT branch generates a script 
melt_compile_script=$(libexecsubdir)/melt-cc-script
(the $(libexecsubdir)/melt-cc-script path is its installed place)
and this script compiles the generated code with the appropriate flags 
(mostly -fPIC -shared and -I....meltincludedir....

This script may be invoked by cc1 when a C file has been generated. This 
script is supposed to produce a dynamically loadable stuff (e.g. *.so 
shared object on ELF/Linux) which is then loaded by ltld_dlopenext. All 
this (the *.c generation, the script invocation to compile it into a 
*.so, the dlopen-ing of this *.so) happens in the same cc1 process.
> 
> But, I'm not sure I fully understand what you're trying to do.
I tried to explain it here, and with a little bit more details on the 
Wiki. Please tell me what is not clear enough.

A big thanks for your comments.

PS: I don't know if this discussion belongs better to the gcc@ list or 
to the gcc-patches@ list!
-- 
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  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-26 15:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-07 21:15 Tom Tromey
2008-03-07 23:20 ` Joseph S. Myers
2008-03-07 23:28   ` Tom Tromey
2008-03-08  0:37 ` Ralf Wildenhues
2008-03-08  0:42   ` Tom Tromey
2008-03-08 14:33 ` Ralf Wildenhues
2008-03-08 16:20   ` Tom Tromey
2008-03-08 16:36     ` Ralf Wildenhues
2008-03-08 18:41       ` Ralf Wildenhues
2008-03-08 19:42         ` Tom Tromey
2008-03-09 14:40           ` Ralf Wildenhues
2008-03-09 15:07             ` Ralf Wildenhues
2008-03-09 16:02             ` Tom Tromey
2008-03-09 16:36               ` Ralf Wildenhues
2008-03-09 16:55                 ` Tom Tromey
2008-03-11  0:01               ` Ben Elliston
2008-03-11  0:11                 ` Tom Tromey
2008-03-18 14:35               ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-03-21 13:43                 ` Tom Tromey
2008-03-21 17:43                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-03-24 20:34                     ` Tom Tromey
2008-03-25  8:33                       ` Tom Tromey
2008-03-25  8:42                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-03-25 15:43                           ` Tom Tromey
2008-03-25 16:32                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-03-25 17:27                               ` Tom Tromey
2008-03-25 17:28                                 ` Tom Tromey
2008-03-25 17:29                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-03-25 17:39                                     ` Tom Tromey
2008-03-25 18:00                                     ` Tom Tromey
2008-03-25 20:41                                 ` Ralf Wildenhues
2008-03-25 20:51                                   ` Tom Tromey
2008-03-25 21:03                                     ` Ralf Wildenhues
2008-03-26  2:08                                       ` Tom Tromey
2008-03-25 22:26                                     ` Andreas Tobler
2008-03-26  3:26                                       ` Tom Tromey
2008-03-26 13:16                                         ` Richard Guenther
2008-03-26 13:17                                           ` Tom Tromey
2008-03-26 13:21                                             ` Richard Guenther
2008-03-26 13:53                                           ` Tom Tromey
2008-03-26 15:05                                             ` Basile STARYNKEVITCH
2008-03-26 15:27                                               ` Tom Tromey
2008-03-26 16:47                                                 ` Basile STARYNKEVITCH [this message]
2008-03-27 12:02                                             ` Richard Guenther
2008-03-27 15:45                                               ` Tom Tromey
2008-03-27 16:40                                                 ` Tom Tromey
2008-03-27 17:14                                                 ` Richard Guenther
2008-03-27 17:41                                                   ` Tom Tromey
2008-03-27 18:34                                                     ` Mark Mitchell
2008-03-27 19:39                                                       ` Tom Tromey
2008-03-27 19:45                                                         ` Diego Novillo
2008-03-27 20:07                                                           ` Tom Tromey
2008-03-27 20:16                                                             ` Diego Novillo
2008-03-27 20:31                                                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-03-27 20:20                                                             ` David Daney
2008-03-27 21:42                                                               ` Tom Tromey
2008-03-27 22:43                                                                 ` Ralf Wildenhues
2008-03-27 22:47                                                                   ` Tom Tromey
2008-03-27 19:21                                                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2008-03-25 21:00                                   ` Tom Tromey
2008-03-25 21:07                                     ` Ralf Wildenhues
2008-03-25 21:44                                   ` Tom Tromey
2008-03-20 16:54             ` Tom Tromey
2008-03-27 16:41 Dominique Dhumieres

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