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From: Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de>
To: Janus Weil <janus@gcc.gnu.org>
Cc: Mikael Morin <mikael.morin@sfr.fr>,
	fortran@gcc.gnu.org,  gcc-patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Patch, Fortran, OOP] PR 49638: [OOP] length parameter is ignored when overriding type bound character functions with constant length.
Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 21:40:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E3DA4B9.3090505@netcologne.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKwh3qi=8X01CFBQ-wBJaUJsuMJ399SFms4RR2kYZUp+i6uxUQ@mail.gmail.com>

Am 06.08.2011 21:26, schrieb Janus Weil:
> Hi Thomas,
>
>>> +      /* Check string length.  */
>>> +      if (proc_target->result->ts.type == BT_CHARACTER
>>> +&&    proc_target->result->ts.u.cl&&    old_target->result->ts.u.cl
>>> +&&    gfc_dep_compare_expr (proc_target->result->ts.u.cl->length,
>>> +                                  old_target->result->ts.u.cl->length) !=
>>> 0)
>>
>> This remains incorrect.
>
> well, I'm not so sure. If we assume a 'strict' interpretation of
> Mikael's standard quotes, then it would be ok.

I think that interpretation is wrong too, based on the leeway that
the standard gives in interpreting expressions.  a + b + c and
c + b + a are mathematically equivalent, and, right now, we cannot
prove them to be so.  (Yes, I would dearly like to do that, but
that is really hard based on the current gfc_expr format.  Instead
of parsing a + b + c as (+ (+ a b) c) like we do now, using (+ a b c)
which would make simplification much easier.  But the question is how
much we would gain from this vs. the effort :-).

Even hardline interpretation were correct, we are not even required to
diagnose this, because this is not a constraint.  The burden is on the
programmer, not the compiler writer.

I think it is most important to not reject correct programs.

>
>> Please change that to a warning (at least) if gfc_dep_compare_expr returns
>> -2.
>
> I don't think this is a good idea: gfc_dep_compare_expr also tries to
> determine whether one expr is larger or smaller than the other.
> Therefore the return value "-2" can have two meanings:
>
> 1) We don't know if the expressions are equal.
> 2) We know that they are unequal, but we don't know which one is larger.

Right now, we have the following cases (assuming the expressions to
be compared are a and b):

1 : We can prove that for all possible variable values, a > b
0 : We can prove that for all possible variable values, a = b
-1 : We can prove that all possible variable values, a < b
-2 : We cannot prove any of the above.

> For the overriding check, we don't care about which expr is larger, we
> want to know whether they are the same or not. So, in many cases we
> will just get a warning, although we definitely know that the expr's
> are different.
>
> Example: Differing expr_type, e.g. one procedure has len=3, the other
> has len=x. It's obvious they are different, but gfc_dep_compare_expr
> will still return "-2" (because we can not tell which one is larger).

In the context of what gfc_dep_compare_expr usually does, these 
expressions may be equal, because x may be 3.

> I would tend to leave the check like it is (i.e. rejecting everything
> !=0), but if you insist, one could extend the output values of
> gfc_dep_compare_expr, e.g. like this:
> -3 = we know nothing (neither if they could be equal, nor which one is larger)
> -2 = we know they are different, but not which one is larger

What you mean is that we should be able to prove that there
exists an x so that a != b.

If you can extend gfc_dep_compare_expr to prove this, great.  However,
for this, you must also handle a + b + c vs. c + b + a, i.e.
(+ (+ a b ) c) vs. (+ (+ c b) a).

> However, one may then have to modify the diagnostics on these return
> values in quite a few places(?).

I suspect that extending gfc_dep_compare_expr will be much more 
difficult than changing its calling sequence :-)

Regards

	Thomas

  reply	other threads:[~2011-08-06 20:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-04 21:42 Janus Weil
2011-08-05 17:26 ` Mikael Morin
2011-08-05 17:35   ` Janus Weil
2011-08-05 18:16     ` Mikael Morin
2011-08-05 21:23 ` Thomas Koenig
2011-08-05 22:06   ` Mikael Morin
2011-08-06 14:27     ` Janus Weil
2011-08-06 16:07       ` Thomas Koenig
2011-08-06 16:17         ` Mikael Morin
2011-08-06 16:24           ` Janus Weil
2011-08-06 16:59             ` Mikael Morin
2011-08-06 18:42               ` Steve Kargl
2011-08-06 16:45         ` Janus Weil
2011-08-06 16:54           ` Thomas Koenig
2011-08-06 17:10             ` Janus Weil
2011-08-06 17:40               ` Janus Weil
2011-08-06 18:27                 ` Mikael Morin
2011-08-06 18:37                   ` Janus Weil
2011-08-06 20:32                     ` Thomas Koenig
2011-08-06 21:11                       ` Janus Weil
2011-08-06 21:40                         ` Thomas Koenig [this message]
2011-08-06 21:59                           ` Janus Weil
2011-08-06 23:14                             ` Thomas Koenig
2011-08-07  2:11                               ` Janus Weil
2011-08-07  3:39                                 ` Mikael Morin
2011-08-07 10:57                                 ` Thomas Koenig
2011-08-07 11:00                                   ` Janus Weil
2011-08-07 11:24                                     ` Janus Weil
2011-08-07 12:39                                       ` Thomas Koenig
2011-08-07 18:49                                         ` Janus Weil
2011-08-07 20:08                                           ` Janus Weil
2011-08-07 20:31                                           ` Thomas Koenig
2011-08-07 23:30                                             ` Janus Weil
2011-08-13 16:30                                             ` Janus Weil
2011-08-19 12:30                                               ` Janus Weil
2011-08-19 12:48                                                 ` Mikael Morin
2011-08-19 13:37                                                   ` Tobias Burnus
2011-08-20  6:13                                                   ` Janus Weil
2011-08-20  7:25                                                     ` Mikael Morin
2011-08-20 21:03                                                       ` Janus Weil
2011-08-20 21:31                                                         ` Mikael Morin
2011-08-21 12:04                                                           ` Thomas Koenig
2011-08-06 16:46       ` Janus Weil

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