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From: "Daniel Berlin" <dberlin@dberlin.org>
To: "Tehila Meyzels" <TEHILA@il.ibm.com>
Cc: gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org, gcc@gcc.gnu.org,
	"Michael Matz" <matz@suse.de>,
	 	trevor_smigiel@playstation.sony.com,
	 	"Revital1 Eres" <ERES@il.ibm.com>,
	 	"Ulrich Weigand" <Ulrich.Weigand@de.ibm.com>,
	 	"Victor Kaplansky" <VICTORK@il.ibm.com>,
	dpatel@apple.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] Improve Tree-SSA if-conversion - convergence of efforts
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 15:12:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4aca3dc20707310800j41fb5cel4ef815bbad42be07@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <OFE09A65AE.6EB97FFD-ONC2257329.004AA175-C2257329.004B47FB@il.ibm.com>

On 7/31/07, Tehila Meyzels <TEHILA@il.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to bring up on the list a discussion that a bunch of people (most
> of those CC-ed above) started at the GCC Summit:
>
> Lately, there were few efforts, that are not necessarily related to each
> other, but are all relevant to if-conversion.
> Each of them has its own restriction, like a specific control-flow, target
> dependent information, permission to transform speculative loads, etc.
>
> Few patches that I'm aware of are:
> 1.  Conditional store sinking, by Michael Matz:
> http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2007-04/msg00724.html
>
> 2. If -conversion for multiple IF_THEN_ELSE clauses, by Victor Kaplansky:
> http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2006-05/msg00265.html
> Also mentioned here:  http://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/AutovectBranchOptimizations
> (2.3.3)
>
> 3.  (unconditional) Store sinking (4.1.1 based), by Revital Eres and Victor
> Kaplansky:
> http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2006-05/msg00265.html (same patch as
> previous)
> Also mentioned here:  http://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/AutovectBranchOptimizations
> (2.3.2)
>
> 4. Conditional load hoisting (4.1.1 based), by myself:
> http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2007-07/msg02168.html
>
> 5. Maybe more?
>
> You're welcome to share your/others related works here...
>
>
> I'd like to suggest to converge all these efforts into a single improved
> tree-level if-conversion pass (i.e., on the top of tree-if-conv.c).
> Currently, the tree-level if-conversion pass is quite limited in several
> ways, and mostly with respect to handling of loads/stores (it basically
> doesn't handle them), but not only.
>
> There are several reasons why to store-sinking and load-hoisting should be
> combined with the if-conversion pass:
> 1. Store-sinking/load hoisting effect one another and they both can create
> new opportunities for if-conversion (not only in vectorizable loops, for
> example).

>     Currently, load-store motion pass happens too late and thus don't help
> the (tree-ssa) if-converter.
> 2. Store-sinking/load hoisting may have an overhead and may degrade
> performance unless the relevant conditional branch gets if-converted.

I agree with you for conditional stores/loads.

The unconditional store/load stuff, however, is exactly what
tree-ssa-sink was meant to do, and belongs there (this is #3 above).
I'm certainly going to fight tooth and nail against trying to shoehorn
unconditional store sinking into if-conv.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-31 15:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-31 14:51 Tehila Meyzels
2007-07-31 15:12 ` Daniel Berlin [this message]
2007-07-31 15:14   ` Michael Matz
2007-08-06 12:16     ` Tehila Meyzels
2007-08-06 14:31       ` Michael Matz
2007-08-01 11:02   ` Tehila Meyzels
2007-08-01 15:27     ` Daniel Berlin
2007-08-01 18:52       ` Ayal Zaks
2007-08-01 19:59         ` Daniel Berlin
2007-09-12 22:10 ` trevor_smigiel
2007-09-13 10:07   ` Richard Guenther
2007-09-13 10:55   ` Michael Matz

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