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From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
To: "Joseph S. Myers" <joseph@codesourcery.com>
Cc: Marek Polacek <polacek@redhat.com>,
	GCC Patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>,
	       Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>,
	Jason Merrill <jason@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH][ubsan] Add VLA bound instrumentation
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 13:39:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5236FEF8.2030901@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1309121555130.5614@digraph.polyomino.org.uk>

On 09/12/2013 06:05 PM, Joseph S. Myers wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Sep 2013, Joseph S. Myers wrote:
>
>> (Actually, I believe sizes (in bytes) greater than target PTRDIFF_MAX, not
>> just SIZE_MAX, should be caught, because pointer subtraction cannot work
>> reliably with larger objects.  So it's not just when the size or
>> multiplication overflow size_t, but when they overflow ptrdiff_t.)
>
> And, to add a bit more to the list of possible ubsan features (is this
> todo list maintained anywhere?), even if the size is such that operations
> on the array are in principle defined, it's possible that adjusting the
> stack pointer by too much may take it into other areas of memory and so
> cause stack overflow that doesn't get detected by the kernel.  So maybe
> ubsan should imply -fstack-check or similar.

I have on my to-do list to make -fstack-check production-ready, by 
avoiding unnecessary instrumentation.  My initial experiments weren't 
too successful, but I think it should be possible to greatly reduce its 
overhead.  If everything else fails, the idea is to reuse the Go split 
stack limit and check against that.

The idea is that this would eventually be enabled in production code, 
much like -fstack-protector.

I'm quite busy with other work at the moment, and a patch from me is 
probably months away, though. :-(

-- 
Florian Weimer / Red Hat Product Security Team

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-09-16 12:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-12 12:38 Marek Polacek
2013-09-12 12:48 ` Marek Polacek
2013-09-12 16:12 ` Joseph S. Myers
2013-09-12 16:20   ` Joseph S. Myers
2013-09-12 17:15     ` Marek Polacek
2013-09-13 10:29     ` Marek Polacek
2013-09-13 11:23       ` Eric Botcazou
2013-09-13 18:01       ` Joseph S. Myers
2013-09-16 11:13     ` Marek Polacek
2013-09-16 13:39     ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2013-09-12 16:29   ` Marek Polacek
2013-09-25 13:23 ` Marek Polacek
2013-10-07 20:17   ` Marek Polacek
2013-10-15 13:25     ` Marek Polacek
2013-10-15 15:01       ` Joseph S. Myers
2013-10-24 20:35   ` Jason Merrill
2013-10-25 17:38     ` Marek Polacek
2013-10-25 19:04       ` Jason Merrill
2013-10-25 19:15         ` Marek Polacek
2013-10-25 19:30           ` Jason Merrill
2013-10-30 15:16             ` Marek Polacek
2013-10-30 16:08               ` Jason Merrill
2013-10-30 16:20                 ` Marek Polacek
2013-10-30 20:55                   ` Mike Stump
2013-10-30 22:46                     ` Marek Polacek
2013-10-30 22:50                       ` Mike Stump
2013-10-31 11:12                         ` Marek Polacek
2013-10-31  3:18                   ` Jason Merrill
2013-10-31 19:07                     ` Marek Polacek
2013-11-01 17:35                       ` Jason Merrill
2013-11-01 19:10                         ` Marek Polacek
2013-11-01 20:39                           ` Jason Merrill
2013-11-02 13:06                             ` Marek Polacek

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