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From: Jeff Law <law@redhat.com>
To: David Malcolm <dmalcolm@redhat.com>,
	gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org,
	       Andrew MacLeod <amacleod@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] Conversion of gimple types to C++ inheritance (v3)
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 21:33:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <527960A8.7030107@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1383236801-13234-1-git-send-email-dmalcolm@redhat.com>

On 10/31/13 10:26, David Malcolm wrote:
> The gimple statement types are currently implemented using a hand-coded
> C inheritance scheme, with a "union gimple_statement_d" holding the
> various possible structs for a statement.
>
> The following series of patches convert it to a C++ hierarchy, using the
> existing structs, eliminating the union. The "gimple" typedef changes
> from being a
>    (union gimple_statement_d *)
> to being a:
>    (struct gimple_statement_base *)
>
> There are no virtual functions in the new code: the sizes of the various
> structs are unchanged.
>
> It makes use of "is-a.h", using the as_a <T> template function to
> perform downcasts, which are checked (via gcc_checking_assert) in an
> ENABLE_CHECKING build, and are simple casts in an unchecked build,
> albeit it in an inlined function rather than a macro.
>
> For example, one can write:
>
>    gimple_statement_phi *phi =
>      as_a <gimple_statement_phi> (gsi_stmt (gsi));
>
> and then directly access the fields of the phi, as a phi.  The existing
> accessor functions in gimple.h become somewhat redundant in this
> scheme, but are preserved.
>
> The earlier versions of the patches made all of the types GTY((user))
> and provided hand-written implementations of the gc and pch marker
> routines.  In this new version we rely on the support for simple
> inheritance that I recently added to gengtype, by adding a "desc"
> to the GTY marking for the base class, and a "tag" to the marking
> for all of the concrete subclasses.  (I say "class", but all the types
> remain structs since their fields are all publicly accessible).
>
> As noted in the earlier patch, I believe this is a superior scheme to
> the C implementation:
>
>    * We can get closer to compile-time type-safety, checking the gimple
>      code once and downcasting with an as_a, then directly accessing
>      fields, rather than going through accessor functions that check
>      each time.  In some places we may want to replace a "gimple" with
>      a subclass e.g. phis are always of the phi subclass, to get full
>      compile-time type-safety.
>
>    * This scheme is likely to be easier for newbies to understand.
>
>    * Currently in gdb, dereferencing a gimple leads to screenfuls of text,
>      showing all the various union values.  With this, you get just the base
>      class, and can cast it to the appropriate subclass.
>
>    * With this, we're working directly with the language constructs,
>      rather than rolling our own, and thus other tools can better
>      understand the code. (e.g. doxygen).
>
> Again, as noted in the earlier patch series, the names of the structs
> are rather verbose.  I would prefer to also rename them all to eliminate
> the "_statement" component:
>    "gimple_statement_base" -> "gimple_base"
>    "gimple_statement_phi"  -> "gimple_phi"
>    "gimple_statement_omp"  -> "gimple_omp"
> etc, but I didn't do this to mimimize the patch size.  But if the core
> maintainers are up for that, I can redo the patch series with that
> change also, or do that as a followup.
>
> The patch is in 6 parts; all of them are needed together.
And that's part of the problem.  There's understandable resistance to 
(for example) the as_a casting.

There's a bit of natural tension between the desire to keep patches 
small and self-contained and the size/scope of the changes necessary to 
do any serious reorganization work.  This set swings too far in the 
latter direction :-)

Is there any way to go forward without the is_a/as_a stuff?  ie, is 
there're a simpler step towards where we're trying to go that allows 
most of this to go forward now rather than waiting?

>
>    * Patch 1 of 6: This patch adds inheritance to the various gimple
>      types, eliminating the initial baseclass fields, and eliminating the
>      union gimple_statement_d.   All the types remain structs.  They
>      become marked with GTY(()), gaining GSS_ tag values.
>
>    * Patch 2 of 6: This patch ports various accessor functions within
>      gimple.h to the new scheme.
>
>    * Patch 3 of 6: This patch is autogenerated by "refactor_gimple.py"
>      from https://github.com/davidmalcolm/gcc-refactoring-scripts
>      There is a test suite "test_refactor_gimple.py" which may give a
>      clearer idea of the changes that the script makes (and add
>      confidence that it's doing the right thing).
>      The patch converts code of the form:
>        {
>          GIMPLE_CHECK (gs, SOME_CODE);
>          gimple_subclass_get/set_some_field (gs, value);
>        }
>      to code of this form:
>        {
>          some_subclass *stmt = as_a <some_subclass> (gs);
>          stmt->some_field = value;
>        }
>      It also autogenerates specializations of
>          is_a_helper <T>::test
>      equivalent to a GIMPLE_CHECK() for use by is_a and as_a.
Conceptually I'm fine with #1-#3.

>
>    * Patch 4 of 6: This patch implement further specializations of
>      is_a_helper <T>::test, for gimple_has_ops and gimple_has_mem_ops.
Here's where I start to get more concerned.

>
>    * Patch 5 of 6: This patch does the rest of porting from union access
>      to subclass access (all the fiddly places that the script in patch 3
>      couldn't handle).
>
>    * Patch 6 of 6: This patch updates the gdb python pretty-printing
>      hook.
Conceptually #5 and #6 shouldn't be terribly controversial.

THe question is can we move forward without patch #4, even if that means 
we aren't getting the static typechecking we want?

Jeff

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-11-05 21:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-31  5:45 RFC: gimple.[ch] break apart Andrew MacLeod
2013-10-31  6:15 ` Jeff Law
2013-10-31 16:41 ` [PATCH 0/6] Conversion of gimple types to C++ inheritance (v3) David Malcolm
2013-10-31 16:27   ` [PATCH 2/6] Hand-written port of various accessors within gimple.h David Malcolm
2013-11-14  9:53     ` Jeff Law
2013-10-31 16:27   ` [PATCH 4/6] Implement is_a_helper <>::test specializations for various gimple types David Malcolm
2013-11-14  9:41     ` Jeff Law
2013-11-18 19:51       ` David Malcolm
2013-11-18 20:10         ` Andrew MacLeod
2013-11-18 20:15         ` Jeff Law
2013-10-31 16:27   ` [PATCH 1/6] Convert gimple types from a union to C++ inheritance David Malcolm
2013-11-14 23:00     ` Jeff Law
2013-11-19  0:22       ` David Malcolm
2013-11-19  8:49         ` Jeff Law
2013-10-31 16:31   ` [PATCH 3/6] Automated part of conversion of gimple types to use " David Malcolm
2013-11-14  9:43     ` Jeff Law
2013-11-18 22:17       ` [PATCH] Updated automated patch (was Re: [PATCH 3/6] Automated part of conversion of gimple types to use C++ inheritance) David Malcolm
2013-11-19  8:49         ` Jeff Law
2013-11-19 16:36           ` David Malcolm
2013-11-22  0:27         ` Jakub Jelinek
2013-11-22  0:35           ` Jeff Law
2013-11-22  1:51             ` Jakub Jelinek
2013-11-22  2:52               ` Andrew MacLeod
2013-11-22  3:48                 ` David Malcolm
2013-11-25 18:09                 ` [PATCH] Fix checking of gimple types David Malcolm
2013-11-25 18:42                   ` Michael Matz
2013-11-25 22:18                   ` Jeff Law
2013-11-27  8:54                     ` David Malcolm
2014-07-23 13:16                   ` Thomas Schwinge
2014-07-24  1:50                     ` David Malcolm
2014-07-29  8:11                       ` Thomas Schwinge
2013-10-31 16:46   ` [PATCH 6/6] Update gdb hooks to reflect changes to " David Malcolm
2013-11-14  9:10     ` Jeff Law
2013-10-31 16:49   ` [PATCH 5/6] Port various places from union access to subclass access David Malcolm
2013-11-14  9:23     ` Jeff Law
2013-11-19  0:52       ` David Malcolm
2013-10-31 18:43   ` [PATCH 0/6] Conversion of gimple types to C++ inheritance (v3) Basile Starynkevitch
2013-11-01 21:36   ` Andrew MacLeod
2013-11-01 21:41     ` Jakub Jelinek
2013-11-01 21:47       ` Andrew MacLeod
2013-11-01 21:57         ` Jakub Jelinek
2013-11-01 22:58           ` David Malcolm
2013-11-04 13:23             ` Andrew MacLeod
2013-11-04 21:52               ` David Malcolm
2013-11-04 22:09                 ` David Malcolm
2013-11-04 22:31                   ` Andrew MacLeod
2013-11-05 21:27                     ` Jeff Law
2013-11-04 22:43                   ` Andrew MacLeod
2013-11-04 22:28                 ` Jakub Jelinek
2013-11-04 22:49                   ` Andrew MacLeod
2013-11-05 21:09                   ` Jeff Law
2013-11-05 11:53                 ` Richard Biener
2013-11-05 12:33                   ` David Malcolm
2013-11-05 12:52                     ` Richard Biener
2013-11-04 14:00           ` Andrew MacLeod
2013-11-04 14:01             ` Jakub Jelinek
2013-11-04 14:15               ` Andrew MacLeod
2013-11-04 18:23       ` Jeff Law
2013-11-01 22:43     ` David Malcolm
2013-11-01 23:43       ` Trevor Saunders
2013-11-04 13:15       ` Andrew MacLeod
2013-11-05 17:23     ` [PATCH] Add gimple subclasses for every gimple code (was Re: [PATCH 0/6] Conversion of gimple types to C++ inheritance (v3)) David Malcolm
2013-11-06 16:53       ` Michael Matz
2013-11-07  6:19         ` David Malcolm
2013-11-07  7:08           ` Jeff Law
2013-11-08 19:23             ` David Malcolm
2013-11-14  8:38               ` Jeff Law
2013-11-14 15:06                 ` Michael Matz
2013-11-14 18:32                 ` David Malcolm
2013-11-15  2:49                   ` Jeff Law
2013-11-07 14:57           ` Michael Matz
2013-11-08  0:07         ` Alec Teal
2013-11-08 14:31           ` Michael Matz
2013-11-05 18:22     ` [PATCH 0/6] Conversion of gimple types to C++ inheritance (v3) Andrew MacLeod
2013-11-05 21:33   ` Jeff Law [this message]
2013-11-05 22:01     ` David Malcolm
2013-11-05 22:17       ` Jeff Law
2013-11-06  1:14         ` Ian Lance Taylor
2013-11-06 20:49           ` Jeff Law
2013-11-06 20:57             ` Trevor Saunders
2013-11-05 22:24       ` Andrew MacLeod
2013-11-05 22:12     ` Andrew MacLeod
2013-11-06  9:37     ` Richard Biener
2013-11-06 11:20       ` Bernd Schmidt
2013-11-06 11:43         ` Richard Biener
2013-11-06 11:53           ` Jakub Jelinek
2013-11-06 13:14             ` Richard Biener
2013-11-06 13:23               ` Jakub Jelinek
2013-11-06 16:42                 ` David Malcolm
2013-11-06 16:55                   ` Jakub Jelinek
2013-11-06 18:34                     ` Tom Tromey
2013-11-06 19:15                       ` Jeff Law
2013-11-06 20:05                         ` Tom Tromey
2013-11-06 20:45                           ` Jeff Law
2013-11-06 13:31             ` Joseph S. Myers
2013-11-06 21:25               ` Jeff Law
2013-11-06 21:09             ` Jeff Law
2013-11-06 12:42           ` Bernd Schmidt
2013-11-06 21:04           ` Jeff Law
2013-11-06 21:06           ` Andrew MacLeod
2013-11-06 21:52             ` Jeff Law
2013-11-07 10:29             ` Richard Biener
2013-11-07 14:01               ` Joseph S. Myers
2013-11-07 14:42                 ` Richard Biener
2013-11-07 14:53               ` Andrew MacLeod
2013-11-10 12:35             ` Richard Sandiford
2013-11-10 15:27               ` Richard Biener
2013-11-06 11:56         ` Eric Botcazou
2013-11-06 20:51         ` Jeff Law
2013-11-06 21:26       ` Jeff Law
2013-11-14  8:40   ` Jeff Law
2013-11-05 16:58 ` [patch] Create gimple-expr..[ch] ... was Re: RFC: gimple.[ch] break apart Andrew MacLeod
2013-11-05 17:52   ` Jeff Law
2013-11-07 10:58   ` Basile Starynkevitch
2013-11-07 13:47     ` Andrew MacLeod
2013-11-07 18:13       ` Diego Novillo

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