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From: Jeff Law <law@redhat.com>
To: Tom Tromey <tromey@redhat.com>, Trevor Saunders <tsaunders@mozilla.com>
Cc: gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/5] add libcc1
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 19:09:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53A87B75.4090705@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87vbrv8uje.fsf@fleche.redhat.com>

On 06/20/14 09:33, Tom Tromey wrote:
>>>>>> "Trevor" == Trevor Saunders <tsaunders@mozilla.com> writes:
>
> Trevor> I'm curious, what is the reason you choose not to write this in C++11 or
> Trevor> later?  Its distributed with gcc, so the only case where you aren't
> Trevor> building with the in tree compiler and libraries is when your cross
> Trevor> compiling gcc, and it doesn't seem particularly important to support
> Trevor> building the plugin or library in that configuration.  So istm you could
> Trevor> go all the way and assume you are being built with trunk gcc and
> Trevor> libraries.
>
> The plugin has to be ABI compatible with GCC itself, and my
> understanding was that C++11 and "however GCC is built" are not
> necessarily compatible.
Presumably you're referring to the upcoming abi breakage for C++ pair & 
list.

There's ways around that with the ABI tagging we're using, but at least 
for now, the safe thing to do for something that must be ABI compatibile 
with GCC itself is to stick with C++03 mode.

>
> Switching to C++11 would be an improvement -- variadic templates would
> simplify the RPC code (with a complicated caveat).  So if it is possible
> I am interested.
There'll probably be a day when we can bless C++11 for building GCC 
itself and any associated plugins, but we're not at that point right now.

> Trevor> So can we add C++ stuff to libiberty and allow building
> Trevor> libiberty without it for binutils / gdb, or can we do something
> Trevor> else to avoid this kind of stuff?
>
> One way would be to just make a new top-level directory for a new
> library.
Seems like the easiest solution, at least for now.

>
> Thanks.  I changed it to do a NULL check.  It's nothrow because nothing
> in libcc1 or gdb is prepared for a C++ exception.  While I like
> exceptions (gdb uses its own longjmp-based exception system
> extensively), my understanding is that they aren't currently used in
> gcc.
Right.  Or if we're using them in GCC, any such use is well buried in 
non-critical , not widely known & marginally, if at all, tested code.

Jeff

  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-23 19:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-16 15:26 [PATCH 0/5] let gdb reuse gcc'c C compiler Tom Tromey
2014-05-16 15:26 ` [PATCH 1/5] export finish_bitfield_layout from stor-layout Tom Tromey
2014-05-16 18:27   ` Jeff Law
2014-05-16 15:27 ` [PATCH 3/5] introduce the binding oracle Tom Tromey
2014-05-16 19:12   ` Jeff Law
2014-06-05 15:31     ` Tom Tromey
2014-06-19 20:43     ` Tom Tromey
2014-05-16 15:27 ` [PATCH 2/5] c_diagnostic_ignored_function hack Tom Tromey
2014-05-16 16:05   ` Joseph S. Myers
2014-06-19 20:46     ` Tom Tromey
2014-05-16 18:33   ` Jeff Law
2014-05-16 18:42     ` Tom Tromey
2014-05-16 15:27 ` [PATCH 4/5] add gcc/gdb interface files Tom Tromey
2014-05-22 12:52   ` Jeff Law
2014-05-22 13:16     ` Jakub Jelinek
2014-05-22 15:13       ` Jeff Law
2014-06-04 20:39       ` Tom Tromey
2014-06-05 19:23         ` Jeff Law
2014-06-05 19:30           ` Jakub Jelinek
2014-06-06  1:54             ` Tom Tromey
2014-06-06  5:35               ` Jakub Jelinek
2014-06-09 17:09               ` Jeff Law
2014-06-19 20:45                 ` Tom Tromey
2014-05-16 16:29 ` [PATCH 0/5] let gdb reuse gcc'c C compiler Mike Stump
2014-05-16 18:48 ` [PATCH 5/5] add libcc1 Tom Tromey
2014-05-16 20:29   ` Joseph S. Myers
2014-05-16 21:03     ` Tom Tromey
2014-06-18 21:07     ` Tom Tromey
2014-06-19 20:47     ` Tom Tromey
2014-05-16 21:36   ` Mike Stump
2014-05-16 22:17   ` Mike Stump
2014-06-05 19:34     ` Tom Tromey
2014-06-05 21:35       ` Mike Stump
2014-06-19 20:52   ` Tom Tromey
2014-06-19 21:45     ` Jakub Jelinek
2014-06-19 22:22       ` Tom Tromey
2014-06-20  3:11     ` Trevor Saunders
2014-06-20 15:34       ` Tom Tromey
2014-06-23 19:09         ` Jeff Law [this message]
2014-06-24  3:13           ` Trevor Saunders
2014-06-24 17:12             ` Tom Tromey
2014-06-24 18:10               ` Trevor Saunders
2014-07-18 19:00     ` Tom Tromey
2014-07-31  4:49     ` Jeff Law
2014-07-31  8:15       ` Richard Biener
2014-07-31 10:53         ` Trevor Saunders
2014-07-31 11:28           ` Richard Biener
2014-07-31 15:08             ` Joseph S. Myers
2014-07-31 19:20         ` Tom Tromey
2014-07-31 19:21           ` Jakub Jelinek
2014-07-31 19:51           ` Trevor Saunders
2014-07-31 20:07             ` Tom Tromey
2014-08-01  2:18               ` Trevor Saunders
2014-07-31 21:14       ` Mike Stump
2014-08-04 14:23         ` Tom Tromey
2014-08-05 19:34       ` Tom Tromey
2014-08-08 12:15         ` [PATCH 5/5] add libcc1 [gcc-5/changes.html] Jan Kratochvil
2014-08-31 15:12           ` Gerald Pfeifer
2014-09-14 15:07             ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2014-09-17 14:14               ` Jan Kratochvil
2014-10-09  9:07       ` [PATCH 5/5] add libcc1 Phil Muldoon
2014-10-09  9:12         ` Jakub Jelinek
2014-10-09  9:18         ` Phil Muldoon
2014-10-10 22:31         ` Jeff Law
2014-10-24  7:43           ` Phil Muldoon
2014-10-24  7:53             ` Jakub Jelinek
2014-10-24 16:47             ` Jeff Law
2014-10-27 20:03               ` Phil Muldoon
2014-10-28 13:29                 ` Joseph S. Myers
2014-10-28 18:00                   ` Phil Muldoon
2014-10-29  3:32                     ` Joseph S. Myers
2014-10-29 10:29                     ` Jakub Jelinek
2014-10-29 10:45                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-29 10:58                         ` Jakub Jelinek
2014-10-29 10:59                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-29 11:03                             ` Jakub Jelinek
2014-10-29 15:00                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-10-29 11:10                             ` Phil Muldoon
2014-10-29 11:42                             ` Phil Muldoon
2014-10-30  5:37                       ` Jeff Law
2014-06-19 20:42 ` [PATCH 0/5] let gdb reuse gcc'c C compiler Tom Tromey
2014-07-30 16:28   ` Tom Tromey
2014-10-28  3:19 [PATCH 5/5] add libcc1 Dominique Dhumieres
2014-10-28  8:36 ` Jakub Jelinek
2014-10-28  8:46   ` Phil Muldoon
2014-10-28  8:50     ` Christophe Lyon
2014-10-28  9:09     ` Jakub Jelinek
2014-10-28  8:43 Uros Bizjak
2014-10-28  8:55 ` Phil Muldoon
2014-10-28  9:21   ` Uros Bizjak
2014-10-28  9:36 ` Jakub Jelinek
2014-10-28  9:58   ` Uros Bizjak
2014-10-28 10:51     ` Phil Muldoon
2014-10-28 10:56       ` Uros Bizjak
2014-10-28 11:16         ` Phil Muldoon
2014-10-28 11:53         ` Phil Muldoon
2014-10-28 12:24           ` Jakub Jelinek
2014-10-30  5:16             ` Jeff Law
2014-10-30  8:50             ` Thomas Schwinge
2014-10-30  8:56               ` Jakub Jelinek
2014-10-30 10:43                 ` Thomas Schwinge

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