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From: Richard Biener <rguenther@suse.de>
To: Tamar Christina via Gcc-patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>
Cc: Richard Sandiford <richard.sandiford@arm.com>, nd <nd@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2]middle-end Support optimized division by pow2 bitmask
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2022 18:09:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <540D4924-1B10-457C-B50D-18C76E81BC13@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR08MB53256C0BAB19A02DEF1700E9FFAA9@VI1PR08MB5325.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com>



> Am 14.06.2022 um 17:58 schrieb Tamar Christina via Gcc-patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>:
> 
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Richard Sandiford <richard.sandiford@arm.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 2:43 PM
>> To: Richard Biener <rguenther@suse.de>
>> Cc: Tamar Christina <Tamar.Christina@arm.com>; gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org;
>> nd <nd@arm.com>
>> Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2]middle-end Support optimized division by pow2
>> bitmask
>> 
>> Richard Biener <rguenther@suse.de> writes:
>>>> On Mon, 13 Jun 2022, Tamar Christina wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Richard Biener <rguenther@suse.de>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2022 12:48 PM
>>>>> To: Tamar Christina <Tamar.Christina@arm.com>
>>>>> Cc: gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org; nd <nd@arm.com>; Richard Sandiford
>>>>> <Richard.Sandiford@arm.com>
>>>>> Subject: RE: [PATCH 1/2]middle-end Support optimized division by
>>>>> pow2 bitmask
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, 13 Jun 2022, Tamar Christina wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Richard Biener <rguenther@suse.de>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2022 10:39 AM
>>>>>>> To: Tamar Christina <Tamar.Christina@arm.com>
>>>>>>> Cc: gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org; nd <nd@arm.com>; Richard Sandiford
>>>>>>> <Richard.Sandiford@arm.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2]middle-end Support optimized division
>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>> pow2 bitmask
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mon, 13 Jun 2022, Richard Biener wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jun 2022, Tamar Christina wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> In plenty of image and video processing code it's common to
>>>>>>>>> modify pixel values by a widening operation and then scale
>>>>>>>>> them back into range
>>>>>>> by dividing by 255.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> This patch adds an optab to allow us to emit an optimized
>>>>>>>>> sequence when doing an unsigned division that is equivalent to:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>   x = y / (2 ^ (bitsize (y)/2)-1
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Bootstrapped Regtested on aarch64-none-linux-gnu,
>>>>>>>>> x86_64-pc-linux-gnu and no issues.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Ok for master?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Looking at 2/2 it seems that this is the wrong way to attack
>>>>>>>> the problem.  The ISA doesn't have such instruction so adding
>>>>>>>> an optab looks premature.  I suppose that there's no unsigned
>>>>>>>> vector integer division and thus we open-code that in a different
>> way?
>>>>>>>> Isn't the correct thing then to fixup that open-coding if it
>>>>>>>> is more
>>>>> efficient?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The problem is that even if you fixup the open-coding it would
>>>>>> need to be something target specific? The sequence of
>>>>>> instructions we generate don't have a GIMPLE representation.  So
>>>>>> whatever is generated I'd have to fixup in RTL then.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What's the operation that doesn't have a GIMPLE representation?
>>>> 
>>>> For NEON use two operations:
>>>> 1. Add High narrowing lowpart, essentially doing (a +w b) >>.n bitsize(a)/2
>>>>    Where the + widens and the >> narrows.  So you give it two
>>>> shorts, get a byte 2. Add widening add of lowpart so basically
>>>> lowpart (a +w b)
>>>> 
>>>> For SVE2 we use a different sequence, we use two back-to-back
>> sequences of:
>>>> 1. Add narrow high part (bottom).  In SVE the Top and Bottom instructions
>> select
>>>>   Even and odd elements of the vector rather than "top half" and "bottom
>> half".
>>>> 
>>>>   So this instruction does : Add each vector element of the first source
>> vector to the
>>>>   corresponding vector element of the second source vector, and place
>> the most
>>>>    significant half of the result in the even-numbered half-width
>> destination elements,
>>>>    while setting the odd-numbered elements to zero.
>>>> 
>>>> So there's an explicit permute in there. The instructions are
>>>> sufficiently different that there wouldn't be a single GIMPLE
>> representation.
>>> 
>>> I see.  Are these also useful to express scalar integer division?
>>> 
>>> I'll defer to others to ack the special udiv_pow2_bitmask optab or
>>> suggest some piecemail things other targets might be able to do as
>>> well.  It does look very special.  I'd also bikeshed it to
>>> udiv_pow2m1 since 'bitmask' is less obvious than 2^n-1 (assuming I
>>> interpreted 'bitmask' correctly ;)).  It seems to be even less general
>>> since it is an unary op and the actual divisor is constrained by the
>>> mode itself?
>> 
>> Yeah, those were my concerns as well.  For n-bit numbers, the same kind of
>> arithmetic transformation can be used for any 2^m-1 for m in [n/2, n), so
>> from a target-independent point of view, m==n/2 isn't particularly special.
>> Hard-coding one value of m would make sense if there was an underlying
>> instruction that did exactly this, but like you say, there isn't.
>> 
>> Would a compromise be to define an optab for ADDHN and then add a vector
>> pattern for this division that (at least initially) prefers ADDHN over the
>> current approach whenever ADDHN is available?  We could then adapt the
>> conditions on the pattern if other targets also provide ADDHN but don't want
>> this transform.  (I think the other instructions in the pattern already have
>> optabs.)
>> 
>> That still leaves open the question about what to do about SVE2, but the
>> underlying problem there is that the vectoriser doesn't know about the B/T
>> layout.
> 
> Wouldn't it be better to just generalize the optab and to pass on the mask?

You could implement udivvhiN3 as well, but we’d need to make sure to test predicates which should make sure only supported constants are let through.

> I'd prefer to do that than teach the vectorizer about ADDHN (which can't be
> easily done now) let alone teaching it about B/T.   It also seems somewhat
> unnecessary to diverge the implementation here in the mid-end. After all,
> you can generate better SSE code here as well, so focusing on generating ISA
> specific code from here for each ISA seems like the wrong approach to me.
> 
> Thanks,
> Tamar
> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Richard

  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-14 16:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-09  4:39 Tamar Christina
2022-06-09  4:40 ` [PATCH 2/2]AArch64 aarch64: Add implementation for pow2 bitmask division Tamar Christina
2022-06-13  9:24 ` [PATCH 1/2]middle-end Support optimized division by pow2 bitmask Richard Biener
2022-06-13  9:39   ` Richard Biener
2022-06-13 10:09     ` Tamar Christina
2022-06-13 11:47       ` Richard Biener
2022-06-13 14:37         ` Tamar Christina
2022-06-14 13:18           ` Richard Biener
2022-06-14 13:38             ` Tamar Christina
2022-06-14 13:42             ` Richard Sandiford
2022-06-14 15:57               ` Tamar Christina
2022-06-14 16:09                 ` Richard Biener [this message]
2022-06-22  0:34                 ` Tamar Christina
2022-06-26 19:55                   ` Jeff Law
2022-09-23  9:33 ` [PATCH 1/4]middle-end Support not decomposing specific divisions during vectorization Tamar Christina
2022-09-23  9:33 ` [PATCH 2/4]AArch64 Add implementation for pow2 bitmask division Tamar Christina
2022-10-31 11:34   ` Tamar Christina
2022-11-09  8:33     ` Tamar Christina
2022-11-09 16:02     ` Kyrylo Tkachov
2022-09-23  9:33 ` [PATCH 3/4]AArch64 Add SVE2 " Tamar Christina
2022-10-31 11:34   ` Tamar Christina
2022-11-09  8:33     ` Tamar Christina
2022-11-12 12:17   ` Richard Sandiford
2022-09-23  9:34 ` [PATCH 4/4]AArch64 sve2: rewrite pack + NARROWB + NARROWB to NARROWB + NARROWT Tamar Christina
2022-10-31 11:34   ` Tamar Christina
2022-11-09  8:33     ` Tamar Christina
2022-11-12 12:25   ` Richard Sandiford
2022-11-12 12:33     ` Richard Sandiford
2022-09-26 10:39 ` [PATCH 1/4]middle-end Support not decomposing specific divisions during vectorization Richard Biener
2022-10-31 11:34   ` Tamar Christina
2022-10-31 17:12     ` Jeff Law
2022-11-08 17:36     ` Tamar Christina
2022-11-09  8:01       ` Richard Biener
2022-11-09  8:26         ` Tamar Christina
2022-11-09 10:37 ` Kyrylo Tkachov

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