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From: Jason Merrill <jason@redhat.com>
To: Kai Tietz <ktietz70@googlemail.com>
Cc: Kai Tietz <ktietz@redhat.com>,
	gcc-patches List <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: C++ delayed folding branch review
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 02:57:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55DE7C55.6030207@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEwic4aN=BVPQkg03u257v=wRc1j5G4e91ahf0g4BBfhUUyhMg@mail.gmail.com>

On 08/24/2015 03:15 AM, Kai Tietz wrote:
> 2015-08-03 17:39 GMT+02:00 Jason Merrill <jason@redhat.com>:
>> On 08/03/2015 05:42 AM, Kai Tietz wrote:
>>> 2015-08-03 5:49 GMT+02:00 Jason Merrill <jason@redhat.com>:
>>>> On 07/31/2015 05:54 PM, Kai Tietz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The "STRIP_NOPS-requirement in 'reduced_constant_expression_p'" I could
>>>>> remove, but for one case in constexpr.  Without folding we don't do
>>>>> type-sinking/raising.
>>>>
>>>> Right.
>>>>
>>>>> So binary/unary operations might be containing cast, which were in the
>>>>> past unexpected.
>>>>
>>>> Why aren't the casts folded away?
>>>
>>> On such cast constructs, as for this vector-sample, we can't fold away
>>
>> Which testcase is this?
>
> It is the g++.dg/ext/vector20.C testcase.  IIRC I mentioned this
> testcase already earlier as reference, but I might be wrong here.

I don't see any casts in that testcase.  So the compiler is introducing 
introducing conversions back and forth between const and non-const, 
then?  I suppose it doesn't so much matter where they come from, they 
should be folded away regardless.

>>> the cast chain.  The difference here to none-delayed-folding branch is
>>> that the cast isn't moved out of the plus-expr.  What we see now is
>>> (plus ((vec) (const vector ...) { .... }), ...).  Before we had (vec)
>>> (plus (const vector ...) { ... }).
>>
>> How could a PLUS_EXPR be considered a reduced constant, regardless of where
>> the cast is?
>
> Of course it is just possible to sink out a cast from PLUS_EXPR, in
> pretty few circumstance (eg. on constants if both types just differ in
> const-attribute, if conversion is no view-convert).

I don't understand how this is an answer to my question.

>>>>> On verify_constant we check by reduced_constant_expression_p, if value is
>>>>> a constant.  We don't handle here, that NOP_EXPRs are something we want to
>>>>> look through here, as it doesn't change anything if this is a constant, or
>>>>> not.
>>>>
>>>> NOPs around constants should have been folded away by the time we get
>>>> there.
>>>
>>> Not in this cases, as the we actually have here a switch from const to
>>> none-const.  So there is an attribute-change, which we can't ignore in
>>> general.
>>
>> I wasn't suggesting we ignore it, we should be able to change the type of
>> the vector_cst.
>
> Well, the vector_cst we can change type, but this wouldn't help
> AFAICS.  As there is still one cast surviving within PLUS_EXPR for the
> other operand.

Isn't the other operand also constant?  In constexpr evaluation, either 
we're dealing with a bunch of constants, in which case we should be 
folding things fully, including conversions between const and non-const, 
or we don't care.

> So the way to solve it would be to move such conversion out of the
> expression.  For integer-scalars we do this, and for some
> floating-points too.  So it might be something we don't handle for
> operations with vector-type.

We don't need to worry about that in constexpr evaluation, since we only 
care about constant operands.

>>> But I agree that for constexpr's we could special case cast
>>> from const to none-const (as required in expressions like const vec v
>>> = v + 1).
>>
>> Right.  But really this should happen in convert.c, it shouldn't be specific
>> to C++.
>
> Hmm, maybe.  But isn't one of our different goals to move such
> implicit code-modification to match.pd instead?

Folding const into a constant is hardly code modification.  But perhaps 
it should go into fold_unary_loc:VIEW_CONVERT_EXPR rather than into 
convert.c.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-27  2:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-12  5:41 Jason Merrill
2015-06-12 16:17 ` Kai Tietz
2015-06-13  7:58   ` Jason Merrill
2015-07-27 19:01     ` Jason Merrill
2015-07-28  2:40       ` Kai Tietz
2015-07-28 20:35         ` Kai Tietz
2015-07-29 18:48           ` Jason Merrill
2015-07-29 23:03             ` Kai Tietz
2015-07-30 14:40               ` Kai Tietz
2015-07-30 18:41               ` Jason Merrill
2015-07-30 21:33                 ` Kai Tietz
2015-07-31  0:43                   ` Jason Merrill
2015-07-31  7:08                     ` Jeff Law
2015-07-31 23:00                     ` Kai Tietz
2015-08-03  3:49                       ` Jason Merrill
2015-08-03  9:42                         ` Kai Tietz
2015-08-03 15:39                           ` Jason Merrill
2015-08-24  7:20                             ` Kai Tietz
2015-08-27  2:57                               ` Jason Merrill [this message]
2015-08-27 10:54                                 ` Kai Tietz
2015-08-27 13:35                                   ` Jason Merrill
2015-08-27 13:44                                     ` Kai Tietz
2015-08-27 18:15                                       ` Kai Tietz
2015-08-28  3:03                                         ` Jason Merrill
2015-08-28  7:43                                           ` Kai Tietz
2015-08-28 11:18                                             ` Kai Tietz
2015-08-28  2:12                                       ` Jason Merrill
2015-07-31  4:00                 ` Jeff Law
2015-07-31 16:26                   ` Jason Merrill
2015-07-31 16:43                     ` Kai Tietz
2015-07-31 16:52                       ` Jakub Jelinek
2015-07-31 16:53                         ` Jason Merrill
2015-07-31 21:31                           ` Kai Tietz
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-04-24  4:23 Jason Merrill
2015-04-24 13:46 ` Kai Tietz
2015-04-24 18:25   ` Jason Merrill
2015-04-28 12:06     ` Kai Tietz
2015-04-28 13:57       ` Jason Merrill

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