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From: Jeff Law <law@redhat.com>
To: "Manuel López-Ibáñez" <lopezibanez@gmail.com>,
	"Richard Biener" <richard.guenther@gmail.com>
Cc: Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>,
	David Malcolm <dmalcolm@redhat.com>,
	       GCC Patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/22] Implement token range tracking within libcpp and C/C++ FEs
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 19:11:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55FB102D.8040809@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAESRpQBw9R3rgWsCfEAbCeFydrNdFmf05m6mewEcg6wO+jK1jw@mail.gmail.com>

On 09/15/2015 06:54 AM, Manuel López-Ibáñez wrote:
> On 15 September 2015 at 14:18, Richard Biener
> <richard.guenther@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Of course this boils down to "uses" of a VAR_DECL using the shared tree
>> node.  On GIMPLE some stmt kinds have separate locations for each operand
>> (PHI nodes), on GENERIC we'd have to invent a no-op expr tree code to
>> wrap such uses to be able to give them distinct locations (can't use sth
>> existing as frontends would need to ignore them in a different way than say
>> NOP_EXPRs or NON_LVALUE_EXPRs).
>>
>
> The problem with that approach (besides the waste of memory implied by
> a whole tree node just to store one location_t) is keeping those
> wrappers in place while making them transparent for most of the
> compiler. According to Arnaud, folding made this approach infeasible:
> https://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2012-09/msg01222.html
>
> The other two alternatives are to store the location of the operands
> on the expressions themselves or to store them as on-the-side
> data-structure, but they come with their own drawbacks. I was
> initially more in favour of the wrapper solution, but after dealing
> with NOP_EXPRs, having to deal also with LOC_EXPR would be a nightmare
> (as you say, they will have to be ignored in a different way). The
> other alternatives seem less invasive and the problems mentioned here
> https://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2012-11/msg00164.html do not seem
> as serious as I thought (passing down the location of the operand is
> becoming  the norm anyway).
I suspect any on-the-side data structure to handle this is ultimately 
doomed to failure.  Storing the location info for the operands in the 
expression means that anything that modifies an operand would have to 
have access to the expression so that location information could be 
updated.  Ugh.

As painful as it will be, the right way is to stop using DECL nodes like 
this and instead be using another node that isn't shared.  That allows 
atttaching location information.  David and I kicked this around before 
he posted his patch and didn't come up with anything better IIRC.

These wrapper nodes are definitely going to get in the way of folders 
and all kinds of things.  So it's not something that's going to be easy 
to add without digging into and modifying a lot of code.

I've always considered this a wart, but fixing that wart hasn't seemed 
worth the effort until recently.

Jeff

  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-17 19:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 133+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-10 20:12 [PATCH 00/22] RFC: Overhaul of diagnostics David Malcolm
2015-09-10 20:12 ` [PATCH 01/22] Change of location_get_source_line signature David Malcolm
2015-09-14 19:28   ` Jeff Law
2015-09-15 17:02     ` David Malcolm
2015-09-10 20:13 ` [PATCH 09/22] C frontend: store and use token ranges in c_declspecs David Malcolm
2015-09-10 20:13 ` [PATCH 20/22] Use rich locations in c-family/c-format.c David Malcolm
2015-09-10 20:13 ` [PATCH 11/22] Objective C: c/c-parser.c: use token ranges in two places David Malcolm
2015-09-10 20:13 ` [PATCH 13/22] gcc-rich-location.[ch]: add methods for working with tree ranges David Malcolm
2015-09-10 20:13 ` [PATCH 03/22] Move diagnostic_show_locus and friends out into a new source file David Malcolm
2015-09-14 19:37   ` Jeff Law
2015-09-18 18:31     ` David Malcolm
2015-09-10 20:13 ` [PATCH 08/22] C frontend: use token ranges in various diagnostics David Malcolm
2015-09-10 20:13 ` [PATCH 10/22] C++ FE: Use token ranges for " David Malcolm
2015-09-10 20:13 ` [PATCH 02/22] Testsuite: add dg-{begin|end}-multiline-output commands David Malcolm
2015-09-14 19:35   ` Jeff Law
2015-09-14 22:17     ` Bernhard Reutner-Fischer
2015-09-14 22:45       ` Jeff Law
2015-09-15 17:53         ` dejagnu version update? Mike Stump
2015-09-15 19:23           ` David Malcolm
2015-09-15 20:29             ` Jeff Law
2015-09-15 21:15               ` Bernhard Reutner-Fischer
2017-05-13 10:38                 ` Bernhard Reutner-Fischer
2017-05-13 11:06                   ` Jakub Jelinek
2017-05-13 21:12                     ` Jeff Law
2017-05-14 23:10                       ` NightStrike
2017-05-15  8:14                         ` Richard Biener
2017-05-15 19:24                           ` Mike Stump
2017-05-15 20:52                             ` Andreas Schwab
2017-05-16  9:56                     ` Jonathan Wakely
2017-05-16 12:16                       ` Bernhard Reutner-Fischer
2017-05-16 12:35                         ` Jonathan Wakely
2017-05-16 12:55                           ` Bernhard Reutner-Fischer
2017-05-16 18:41                             ` Matthias Klose
2017-05-16 19:09                           ` Mike Stump
2018-08-04 16:32                             ` Bernhard Reutner-Fischer
2018-08-06 14:33                               ` Jonathan Wakely
2018-08-06 15:26                               ` Mike Stump
2018-08-07 16:34                                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2018-08-08 11:18                                   ` Bernhard Reutner-Fischer
2018-08-08 13:35                                     ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2018-08-08 14:37                                     ` Michael Matz
2018-08-08 16:45                                     ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-27 23:00                               ` Bernhard Reutner-Fischer
2021-10-28 19:11                                 ` Jeff Law
2021-10-29  0:41                                   ` [PATCH] Bump required minimum DejaGnu version to 1.5.3 Bernhard Reutner-Fischer
2021-10-29  7:32                                     ` Richard Biener
2021-11-04 11:55                                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-11-04 12:22                                         ` Martin Liška
2021-11-04 19:09                                           ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-11-05  9:33                                             ` Richard Biener
2021-11-05 11:39                                               ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-11-04 12:41                                         ` Richard Biener
2021-11-04 13:50                                           ` Jonathan Wakely
2015-09-15 19:53           ` dejagnu version update? Bernhard Reutner-Fischer
2015-09-15 20:05             ` Jeff Law
2015-09-15 23:12               ` Mike Stump
2015-09-16  7:41                 ` Andreas Schwab
2015-09-16 16:19                   ` Mike Stump
2015-09-16 16:32                     ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2015-09-16 16:39                       ` Jeff Law
2015-09-16 17:26                         ` Trevor Saunders
2015-09-16 17:46                         ` David Malcolm
2015-09-16 19:09                           ` Bernhard Reutner-Fischer
2015-09-16 19:51                             ` Mike Stump
2015-09-17  0:07                           ` Segher Boessenkool
2015-09-17 13:57                         ` Richard Earnshaw
2015-09-16 18:04                       ` Mike Stump
2015-09-16 18:58                         ` Bernhard Reutner-Fischer
2015-09-16 19:37                         ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2015-09-16 13:17             ` Matthias Klose
2015-09-16 15:46               ` Bernhard Reutner-Fischer
2015-09-10 20:13 ` [PATCH 06/22] PR/62314: add ability to add fixit-hints David Malcolm
2015-09-10 20:28 ` [PATCH 07/22] Implement token range tracking within libcpp and C/C++ FEs David Malcolm
2015-09-11 14:08   ` Michael Matz
2015-09-14 19:41     ` Jeff Law
2015-09-15 10:20   ` Richard Biener
2015-09-15 10:28     ` Jakub Jelinek
2015-09-15 10:48       ` Richard Biener
2015-09-15 11:01         ` Jakub Jelinek
2015-09-16 20:29           ` David Malcolm
2015-09-17 16:54             ` David Malcolm
2015-09-17 19:15               ` Jeff Law
2015-09-17 20:06                 ` David Malcolm
2015-09-17 19:25         ` Jeff Law
2015-09-15 12:09       ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2015-09-15 12:18         ` Richard Biener
2015-09-15 12:57           ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2015-09-17 19:11             ` Jeff Law [this message]
2015-09-17 19:13           ` Jeff Law
2015-09-15 13:53       ` David Malcolm
2015-09-10 20:29 ` [PATCH 04/22] Reimplement diagnostic_show_locus, introducing rich_location classes David Malcolm
2015-09-11 13:44   ` Michael Matz
2015-09-11 14:12   ` Michael Matz
2015-09-11 15:15     ` David Malcolm
2015-09-10 20:29 ` [PATCH 05/22] Add overloads of inform, warning_at, etc that take a source_range David Malcolm
2015-09-10 20:30 ` [PATCH 14/22] C: capture tree ranges for various expressions David Malcolm
2015-09-10 20:30 ` [PATCH 15/22] Add plugin to recursively dump the source-ranges in a tree David Malcolm
2015-09-11  3:19   ` Martin Sebor
2015-09-10 20:30 ` [PATCH 12/22] Add source-ranges for trees David Malcolm
2015-09-10 20:31 ` [PATCH 19/22] gcc-rich-location.[ch]: add debug methods for cpp_string_location David Malcolm
2015-09-10 20:31 ` [PATCH 18/22] Track locations within string literals in tree_string David Malcolm
2015-09-10 20:32 ` [PATCH 21/22] Use Levenshtein distance for various misspellings in C frontend David Malcolm
2015-09-10 21:11   ` Andi Kleen
2015-09-11 15:31   ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2015-09-15 15:25     ` [PATCH WIP] Use Levenshtein distance for various misspellings in C frontend v2 David Malcolm
2015-09-15 16:25       ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2015-09-16  8:45       ` Richard Biener
2015-09-16 13:33         ` Michael Matz
2015-09-16 14:00           ` Richard Biener
2015-09-16 15:49             ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2015-09-17  8:46               ` Richard Biener
2015-09-17 19:32         ` Jeff Law
2015-09-17 20:05           ` David Malcolm
2015-09-17 20:52             ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2015-10-30 12:30           ` [PATCH 0/2] Levenshtein-based suggestions (v3) David Malcolm
2015-10-30 12:30             ` [PATCH 2/2] C FE: suggest corrections for misspelled field names David Malcolm
2015-10-30 12:36             ` [PATCH 1/2] Implement Levenshtein distance David Malcolm
2015-11-02 10:56               ` Mikael Morin
2015-11-02  6:44             ` [PATCH 0/2] Levenshtein-based suggestions (v3) Jeff Law
2015-11-13  2:08               ` David Malcolm
2015-11-13  6:57                 ` Marek Polacek
2015-11-13 12:16                   ` David Malcolm
2015-11-13 15:11                     ` Marek Polacek
2015-11-13 15:44                       ` Bernd Schmidt
2015-11-13 15:53                         ` Marek Polacek
2015-11-13 15:56                           ` Jakub Jelinek
2015-11-13 16:02                             ` Marek Polacek
2015-09-10 20:32 ` [PATCH 16/22] C/C++ frontend: use tree ranges in various diagnostics David Malcolm
2015-09-10 20:32 ` [PATCH 17/22] libcpp: add location tracking within string literals David Malcolm
2015-09-10 20:50 ` [PATCH 22/22] Add fixit hints to spellchecker suggestions David Malcolm
2015-09-14 17:49 ` [PATCH 00/22] RFC: Overhaul of diagnostics Bernd Schmidt
2015-09-14 19:44   ` Jeff Law
2015-09-15  1:11     ` David Malcolm

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