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From: Aldy Hernandez <aldyh@redhat.com>
To: Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com>,
	       Oleg Endo <oleg.endo@t-online.de>,
	Martin Sebor <msebor@gmail.com>,
	       gcc-patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: protected alloca class for malloc fallback
Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2016 10:09:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <57A5B759.102@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44EE0FB0-A8B9-43F9-BF58-C4D7D27DA944@gmail.com>

On 08/05/2016 04:07 PM, Richard Biener wrote:
> On August 5, 2016 8:15:54 PM GMT+02:00, Oleg Endo <oleg.endo@t-online.de> wrote:
>> On Fri, 2016-08-05 at 19:55 +0200, Richard Biener wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Please don't use std::string.  For string building you can use
>>> obstacks.
>>>
>>
>> Just out of curiosity ... why?  I remember there was some discussion
>> about it, what was the conclusion?  Is that now a general rule or does
>> it depend on the context where strings are used?
>
> Because you make a messy mix of string handling variants.  Std::string is not powerful enough to capture all uses, it is vastly more expensive to embed into structs and it pulls in too much headers.

Is this negotiable?  I would prefer to use the standard library 
implementation of things when possible.  At the very least, it's easier 
for others familiar with the C++ STL.  I mean, we are using C++ after 
all :).

I understand a reluctance in cases where it would be very inefficient, 
or where std::string is not up to speed.  In such cases it makes sense 
to use obstacks or equivalents, but in straightforward things on a non 
critical path?

I would gladly do either, but I would strongly prefer std::string when 
it does not overly pessimize code.

 > (Oh, and I hate I/o streams even more)

Yeah, but that sounds like a personal preference? ;-).

Let me know.  I'll do either if it's an agreed upon mandate from the 
global deities :).

Aldy

  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-06 10:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-04 11:30 Aldy Hernandez
2016-08-04 12:58 ` Richard Biener
2016-08-04 15:19   ` Aldy Hernandez
2016-08-04 19:24     ` Jeff Law
2016-08-05 14:37       ` Aldy Hernandez
2016-08-05 15:15         ` Pedro Alves
2016-08-05 16:23         ` Jeff Law
2016-08-05 17:48           ` Richard Biener
2016-08-05  8:17     ` Richard Biener
2016-08-04 19:06 ` Pedro Alves
2016-08-04 19:16   ` Jeff Law
2016-08-04 19:22     ` Pedro Alves
2016-08-04 19:26       ` Jeff Law
2016-08-04 19:31         ` Pedro Alves
2016-08-05  2:10 ` Martin Sebor
2016-08-05 14:42   ` Aldy Hernandez
2016-08-05 17:56     ` Richard Biener
2016-08-05 18:16       ` Oleg Endo
2016-08-05 20:07         ` Richard Biener
2016-08-06 10:09           ` Aldy Hernandez [this message]
2016-08-06 10:15           ` Aldy Hernandez
2016-08-06 15:08             ` Richard Biener
2016-08-08 17:00               ` Jeff Law
2016-08-08 17:32                 ` Trevor Saunders
2016-08-08 19:03                   ` Richard Biener
2016-08-09 11:34                   ` Oleg Endo
2016-08-09 17:34                     ` Trevor Saunders
2016-08-10 17:03                       ` Oleg Endo
2016-08-11  1:23                         ` Trevor Saunders
2016-08-11 12:18                           ` Oleg Endo
2016-08-11 17:55                             ` Trevor Saunders
2016-08-20  2:29                         ` Mike Stump
2016-08-21 20:00                           ` C++11? (Re: protected alloca class for malloc fallback) Pedro Alves
2016-08-22  7:10                             ` Trevor Saunders
2016-08-22  7:28                               ` Richard Biener
2016-08-22 12:02                             ` Eric Gallager
2016-08-22 12:58                               ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2016-08-22 22:08                               ` Mike Stump
2016-08-23 23:17                                 ` Eric Gallager
2016-08-09 13:17       ` protected alloca class for malloc fallback Aldy Hernandez
2016-08-09 13:21         ` Bernd Schmidt
2016-08-10 10:04         ` Richard Biener
2016-08-10 10:12           ` Aldy Hernandez
2016-08-10 10:39             ` Richard Biener
2016-08-10 18:00           ` Jeff Law
2016-08-10 18:33             ` Richard Biener
2016-08-16 16:28               ` Jeff Law
2016-08-16 16:44                 ` Jakub Jelinek
2016-08-16 16:47                   ` Jeff Law
2016-08-16 17:54                     ` Martin Sebor
2016-08-17  8:27                       ` Richard Biener
2016-08-17 13:39                         ` Martin Sebor

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