From: Jeff Law <law@redhat.com>
To: Wilco Dijkstra <Wilco.Dijkstra@arm.com>,
Richard Earnshaw <Richard.Earnshaw@arm.com>,
James Greenhalgh <James.Greenhalgh@arm.com>
Cc: GCC Patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>, nd <nd@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFA] [target/87369] Prefer "bit" over "bfxil"
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2018 19:01:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5db0709f-f1db-5d5b-09d3-f153e8eea317@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DB5PR08MB10303D5E68C3B242BFA4E51983AA0@DB5PR08MB1030.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com>
On 12/7/18 11:48 AM, Wilco Dijkstra wrote:
> Hi,
>
>>> Ultimately, the best solution here will probably depend on which we
>>> think is more likely, copysign or the example I give above.
>> I'd tend to suspect we'd see more pure integer bit twiddling than the
>> copysign stuff.
>
> All we need to do is to clearly separate the integer and FP/SIMD cases.
> Copysign should always expand into a pattern that cannot generate
> integer instructions. This could be done by adding a bit/bif pattern with
> UNSPEC for the DI/SImode case or use V2DI/V2SI in the copysign
> expansion.
As I've noted, adding those unspecs is likely to get in the way of
things like CSE, combine, etc.
>
>> Could we have the bfxil pattern have an alternative that accepts vector
>> regs and generates bit in appropriate circumstances?
>
> We already do that in too many cases, and it only makes the problem
> worse since the register allocator cannot cost these patterns at all (let
> alone accurately). This is particularly bad when the expansions are
> wildly different and emit extra instructions which cannot be optimized
> after register allocation.
I'm not sure what you mean by it can't cost them. Costs certainly
factor into the algorithms used by IRA/LRA. But I would agree that it's
not particularly good at costing across register banks and modeling the
cost of reloads it'll have to generate if it needs to move a value from
one bank to another.
>
> We simply need to make an early choice which register file to use.
GCC fundamentally isn't designed to do that.
>
>> Hmm, maybe the other way around would be better. Have the "bit"
>> pattern with a general register alternative that generates bfxil when
>> presented with general registers.
>
> We already have that, and that's a very complex pattern which already
> results in inefficient integer code.
>
> For the overlapping cases between bfi and bfxil the mid-end should really
> simplify one into the other to avoid having to have multiple MD patterns
> for equivalent expressions. This may solve the problem.
Well, the bfxil pattern is general enough to handle both, the problem is
it only works on one register file.
>
>> I would generally warn against hiding things in unspecs like you've
>> suggested above. We're seeing cases where that's been on in the x86
>> backend and it's inhibiting optimizations in various places.
>
> In the general case we can't describe a clear preference for a specific
> register file without support for scalar vector types (eg. V1DI, V1SI) or
> having a way to set virtual register preferences at expand time.
I'm going to step away from this problem. It looked like it might be
trackable, but there's clearly a lot more to it and someone with more
experience on aarch64 will have to run with it.
Patch withdrawn.
jeff
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2018-12-07 18:48 Wilco Dijkstra
2018-12-07 19:01 ` Jeff Law [this message]
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2018-12-07 15:52 Jeff Law
2018-12-07 17:31 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2018-12-07 18:01 ` Jeff Law
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