From: Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com>
To: Ulrich Weigand <uweigand@de.ibm.com>
Cc: mliska@suse.cz,gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: Still crashes due to aliasing violation (Re: [RFC, PATCH] Split pool_allocator and create a new object_allocator)
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 13:04:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6EDDAAC0-1275-45CF-938C-857A1A2AD451@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150717212828.870233CC3@oc7340732750.ibm.com>
On July 17, 2015 11:28:28 PM GMT+02:00, Ulrich Weigand <uweigand@de.ibm.com> wrote:
>On July 17, 2015 6:54:32 PM GMT+02:00, Ulrich Weigand
><uweigand@de.ibm.com> wrote:
>> >So do we now consider host compilers < 4.3 (4?) unsupported for
>> >building
>> >mainline GCC, or should we try to work around the issue (e.g. by
>moving
>> >the allocator out-of-line or using some other aliasing barrier)?
>>
>> Why is this an issue for stage1 which runs w/o optimization?
>
>Well, this is the SPU compiler on a Cell system, which is technically
>a cross compiler from PowerPC (even though the resulting binaries run
>natively on the machine).
>
>> For cross compiling we already suggest using known good compilers.
>
>The documentation says:
>
> To build a cross compiler, we recommend first building and installing
> a native compiler. You can then use the native GCC compiler to build
> the cross compiler. The installed native compiler needs to be GCC
> version 2.95 or later.
I think that needs updating anyway since even for crosses we now require a C++04 conforming host compiler.
>So building with a native GCC 4.1 seems to have been officially
>supported until now as far as I can tell (unless you're building Ada).
>
>
>Now, I could certainly live with a statement that cross compilers can
>only be build with a native GCC 4.3 or newer; but that should be IMO
>a deliberate decision and be widely announced (maybe even verified
>by a configure check?), so that others don't run into the problem;
>the nature of its symptoms make the problem difficult to diagnose.
The requirement is to have a bug-free host compiler or use flags that make it appear bug-free. Which is why we use -O0 when bootstrapping...
Yes, we could detect appropriate host gcc versions at configure time and apply a workaround (use -fno-strict-aliasing) for too old GCC.
Richard.
>
>Bye,
>Ulrich
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-07-18 9:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-06-29 14:01 [RFC, PATCH] Split pool_allocator and create a new object_allocator Martin Liška
2015-07-02 20:09 ` Richard Sandiford
2015-07-02 21:08 ` Trevor Saunders
2015-07-03 8:56 ` Richard Sandiford
2015-07-03 10:11 ` Martin Liška
2015-07-03 12:22 ` Martin Jambor
2015-07-03 13:07 ` Richard Sandiford
2015-07-03 14:15 ` Martin Liška
2015-07-03 16:19 ` Richard Sandiford
2015-07-09 21:43 ` Martin Liška
2015-07-10 14:19 ` Pat Haugen
2015-07-16 11:00 ` Martin Liška
2015-07-16 11:03 ` Richard Biener
2015-07-17 13:25 ` Still crashes due to aliasing violation (Re: [RFC, PATCH] Split pool_allocator and create a new object_allocator) Ulrich Weigand
2015-07-17 13:44 ` Richard Biener
2015-07-17 13:50 ` Ulrich Weigand
2015-07-17 13:54 ` Martin Liška
2015-07-17 15:37 ` Richard Biener
2015-07-17 17:49 ` Ulrich Weigand
2015-07-17 18:12 ` Richard Biener
2015-07-17 21:57 ` Ulrich Weigand
2015-07-18 13:04 ` Richard Biener [this message]
2015-07-17 18:14 ` Martin Liška
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