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From: Geert Bosch <bosch@adacore.com>
To: Richard Sandiford <rsandifo@nildram.co.uk>
Cc: Olivier Hainque <hainque@adacore.com>,  gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] define WIDEST_HARDWARE_FP_SIZE on mips
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 17:08:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7C2C6C26-1CF3-4304-B9E3-A33DA1C7B2C6@adacore.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ve9ff96r.fsf@firetop.home>


On Oct 10, 2007, at 08:25, Richard Sandiford wrote:
> Your reply seems to be about why it's useful to have a macro that
> provides the widest efficient floating-point type.  For avoidance
> of doubt, I can certainly appreciate that such a thing is useful.
> I'm just not sure why it's needed for correctness.  Olivier said:
...
> I was trying to understand why the runtime library raises a constraint
> error.  Is it simply that the library only supports software floating
> point for single and double precision (but supports hardware floating
> point for wider types)?  Is it not possible to construct a version  
> of the
> Ada test above that forces the use of the equivalent of C "long  
> double"?
> If so, would that fail in the same way, or don't we care?
As I'm travelling tomorrow, and don't have easy access to
a MIPS system right now, I won't have enough time
today to debug this issue in detail before next week.

There's one of two possibilities:
   - the GNAT run time doesn't handle 128-bit float properly
   - the 128-bit float doesn't have sane numerical semantics

As we haven't yet ported GNAT to a system with 128-bit hardware
floating point, it is very possible that some adaptations are
necessary. In fact, that's certainly the case.

>> From a MIPS perspective, it's also counterintuitive for
> WIDEST_HARDWARE_FP_SIZE to be 64 even for -msingle-float
> and -msoft-float targets (rather than 32 and 0 respectively).
> I can understand that 0 and 32 would be wrong given the way
> the macro is used in ada/targtyps.c, but it seems that Ada is
> using this macro for correctness -- and even to control an aspect
> of the API and ABI -- whereas libgcc2.c is using it for optimisation.

I definitely would be reasonable to set this to 32 and 0
for -msingle-float and -msoft-float targets. Yes, that would
mean we'd have to change targtypes.c, but that's fine.
Especially with -msingle-float this would seem a clear improvement.
> It seems on the fact of it (to a non-Ada expert, of course) that  
> given:
> get_target_long_double_size really ought to be using something called
> ADA_LONG_DOUBLE_TYPE_SIZE, given that it isn't always the same as
> LONG_DOUBLE_TYPE_SIZE.

Yes, there definitely is room for improvement here.
It's on my to do list.

   -Geert

  reply	other threads:[~2007-10-10 17:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-08  8:59 Olivier Hainque
2007-10-09 20:01 ` Richard Sandiford
2007-10-10 11:43   ` Geert Bosch
2007-10-10 12:25     ` Richard Sandiford
2007-10-10 17:08       ` Geert Bosch [this message]
2009-03-02 17:30         ` Laurent GUERBY
2009-03-02 20:08           ` Richard Sandiford
2009-03-02 21:46             ` Laurent GUERBY
2009-03-03  5:17               ` Geert Bosch
2009-03-03  9:16                 ` Laurent GUERBY
2009-03-04 20:24                   ` Richard Sandiford
2009-03-04 21:10                     ` Laurent GUERBY
2009-03-04 22:03                       ` Richard Sandiford
2009-03-04 23:19                       ` Joseph S. Myers
2009-03-04 23:55                         ` Laurent GUERBY
2009-03-05  4:36                           ` Geert Bosch
2009-03-05 13:56                             ` Joseph S. Myers
2009-03-04 21:13                     ` Geert Bosch
2009-03-04 22:18                       ` Richard Sandiford
2009-03-05  4:30                         ` Geert Bosch
2009-03-05 22:06                           ` Richard Sandiford
2009-03-03  9:43             ` Olivier Hainque
2009-03-04 10:19               ` Laurent GUERBY

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