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From: Iain Sandoe <idsandoe@googlemail.com>
To: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Jeff Law <law@redhat.com>,
	Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Jenner <andrew@codesourcery.com>,
	Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>,
	GCC Patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>,
	Rainer Orth <ro@CeBiTec.Uni-Bielefeld.DE>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Delete powerpcspe
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2018 08:43:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7DA11520-25DA-458B-AD49-F1D28BCD65E3@googlemail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181214082049.GK3803@gate.crashing.org>


> On 14 Dec 2018, at 08:20, Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 09:49:51AM -0700, Jeff Law wrote:
>> On 12/12/18 10:33 AM, Segher Boessenkool wrote:
>>> On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 11:36:29AM +0100, Richard Biener wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 2:37 PM Jeff Law <law@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>> One way to deal with these problems is to create a fake simulator that
>>>>> always returns success.  That's what my tester does for the embedded
>>>>> targets.  That allows us to do reliable compile-time tests as well as
>>>>> the various scan-whatever tests.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It would be trivial to start sending those results to gcc-testresults.
>>>> 
>>>> I think it would be more useful if the execute testing would be
>>>> reported as UNSUPPORTED rather than simply PASS w/o being
>>>> sure it does.
>>> 
>>> Yes.
>> Yes, but I don't think we've got a reasonable way to do that in the
>> existing dejagnu framework.

+1 for this idea
> 
> I think you can have your board's ${board}_load just do
>  return [list "unresolved" ""]
> or something like that.

Would it not be possible to have a "target-supports" test that determines
that a trivial exe will run, and then have "dg-do run” fall back to only the
build phase and set UNSUPPORTED for everything past that?

(of course, this test would be in the dg-init and friends, not per test!)

Alternately, perhaps Jeff's dummy exe could produce a "Well Known" output
that could be pre-pruned => UNSUPPORTED?


>>> If results are posted to gcc-testresults then other people can get a
>>> feel whether the port is detoriating, and at what rate.  If no results
>>> are posted we just have to assume the worst.  Most people do not have
>>> the time (or setup) to test it for themselves.
>> Yup.  I wish I had the time to extract more of the data the tester is
>> gathering and produce this kind of info.
>> 
>> I have not made it a priority to try and address all the issues I've
>> seen in the tester.  We have some ports that are incredibly flaky
>> (epiphany for example), and many that have a lot of failures, but are
>> stable in their set of failures.
>> 
>> My goal to date has mostly been to identify regressions.  I'm not even
>> able to keep up with that.  For example s390/s390x have been failing for
>> about a week with their kernel builds.    sparc, i686, aarch64 are
>> consistently tripping over regressions.  ia64 hasn't worked since we put
>> in qsort consistency checking, etc etc.
> 
> About a third of kernel builds have failed (for my configs) this whole
> stage 1 and stage 3...  Hopefully it will be better in stage 4.
> 
> 
> Segher

  reply	other threads:[~2018-12-14  8:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-03 20:50 Segher Boessenkool
2018-12-03 21:40 ` Jeff Law
2018-12-03 21:49   ` Jakub Jelinek
2018-12-10 18:25     ` Andrew Jenner
2018-12-10 20:13       ` Segher Boessenkool
2018-12-11  8:44         ` Richard Biener
2018-12-11 13:37           ` Jeff Law
2018-12-12 10:36             ` Richard Biener
2018-12-12 17:33               ` Segher Boessenkool
2018-12-13 16:49                 ` Jeff Law
2018-12-14  8:21                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2018-12-14  8:43                     ` Iain Sandoe [this message]
2018-12-14 16:08                     ` Jeff Law
2018-12-14  9:52                   ` Richard Biener
2018-12-14 16:02                     ` Jeff Law
2018-12-14 18:41                       ` Joseph Myers
2018-12-14 21:15                         ` Jeff Law

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