From: Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com>
To: Qing Zhao <QING.ZHAO@ORACLE.COM>
Cc: Richard Sandiford <richard.sandiford@arm.com>,
gcc Patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>,
kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: How to traverse all the local variables that declared in the current routine?
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2020 17:36:43 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83E30551-CAD3-4310-9E74-453874334CB2@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8A595141-563A-4CDC-AA09-BAB76E5113AA@ORACLE.COM>
On December 3, 2020 5:07:28 PM GMT+01:00, Qing Zhao <QING.ZHAO@ORACLE.COM> wrote:
>
>
>> On Dec 3, 2020, at 2:45 AM, Richard Biener
><richard.guenther@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 4:36 PM Qing Zhao <QING.ZHAO@oracle.com
><mailto:QING.ZHAO@oracle.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 2:45 AM, Richard Biener
><richard.guenther@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 8:49 PM Qing Zhao <QING.ZHAO@oracle.com>
>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi, Richard,
>>>
>>> Could you please comment on the following approach:
>>>
>>> Instead of adding the zero-initializer quite late at the pass
>“pass_expand”, we can add it as early as during gimplification.
>>> However, we will mark these new added zero-initializers as
>“artificial”. And passing this “artificial” information to
>>> “pass_early_warn_uninitialized” and “pass_late_warn_uninitialized”,
>in these two uninitialized variable analysis passes,
>>> (i.e., in tree-sea-uninit.c) We will update the checking on
>“ssa_undefined_value_p” to consider “artificial” zero-initializers.
>>> (i.e, if the def_stmt is marked with “artificial”, then it’s a
>undefined value).
>>>
>>> With such approach, we should be able to address all those
>conflicts.
>>>
>>> Do you see any obvious issue with this approach?
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, DSE will happily elide an explicit zero-init following the
>>> artificial one leading to false uninit diagnostics.
>>>
>>>
>>> Indeed. This is a big issue. And other optimizations might also be
>impacted by the new zero-init, resulting changed behavior
>>> of uninitialized analysis in the later stage.
>>
>> I don't see how the issue can be resolved, you can't get both, uninit
>> warnings and no uninitialized memory.
>> People can compile twice, once without -fzero-init to get uninit
>> warnings and once with -fzero-init to get
>> the extra "security".
>
>So, for GCC, you think that it’s okay to get rid of the following
>requirement:
>
>C. The implementation needs to keep the current static warning on
>uninitialized
>variables untouched in order to avoid "forking the language”.
>
>Then, we can add explanation in the user documentation of the new
>-fzero-init and also
>that of the -Wuninitialized to inform users that -fzero-init will
>change the behavior of -Wuninitialized.
>In order to get the warnings, -fzero-init should not be added at the
>same time?
>
>With this requirement being eliminated, implementation will be much
>easier.
>
>We can add the new initialization during simplification phase. Then
>this new option will work
>for all languages. Is this reasonable?
I think that's reasonable indeed. Eventually doing the init after the early uninit pass is possible as well.
Richard.
>thanks.
>
>Qing
>
>
>
>>
>> Richard.
>>
>>>
>>> What's the intended purpose of the zero-init?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The purpose of this new option is: (from the original LLVM patch
>submission):
>>>
>>> "Add an option to initialize automatic variables with either a
>pattern or with
>>> zeroes. The default is still that automatic variables are
>uninitialized. Also
>>> add attributes to request uninitialized on a per-variable basis,
>mainly to disable
>>> initialization of large stack arrays when deemed too expensive.
>>>
>>> This isn't meant to change the semantics of C and C++. Rather, it's
>meant to be
>>> a last-resort when programmers inadvertently have some undefined
>behavior in
>>> their code. This patch aims to make undefined behavior hurt less,
>which
>>> security-minded people will be very happy about. Notably, this means
>that
>>> there's no inadvertent information leak when:
>>>
>>> • The compiler re-uses stack slots, and a value is used
>uninitialized.
>>> • The compiler re-uses a register, and a value is used
>uninitialized.
>>> • Stack structs / arrays / unions with padding are copied.
>>> This patch only addresses stack and register information leaks.
>There's many
>>> more infoleaks that we could address, and much more undefined
>behavior that
>>> could be tamed. Let's keep this patch focused, and I'm happy to
>address related
>>> issues elsewhere."
>>>
>>> For more details, please refer to the LLVM code review discussion on
>this patch:
>>> https://reviews.llvm.org/D54604
>>>
>>>
>>> I also wrote a simple writeup for this task based on my study and
>discussion with
>>> Kees Cook (cc’ing him) as following:
>>>
>>>
>>> thanks.
>>>
>>> Qing
>>>
>>> Support stack variables auto-initialization in GCC
>>>
>>> 11/19/2020
>>>
>>> Qing Zhao
>>>
>>> =======================================================
>>>
>>>
>>> ** Background of the task:
>>>
>>> The correponding GCC bugzilla RFE was created on 9/3/2018:
>>> https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=87210
>>>
>>> A similar option for LLVM (around Nov, 2018)
>>> https://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/cfe-dev/2018-November/060172.html
>>> had invoked a lot of discussion before committed.
>>>
>>> (The following are quoted from the comments of Alexander Potapenko
>in
>>> GCC bug 87210):
>>>
>>> Finally, on Oct, 2019, upstream Clang supports force initialization
>>> of stack variables under the -ftrivial-auto-var-init flag.
>>>
>>> -ftrivial-auto-var-init=pattern initializes local variables with a
>0xAA pattern
>>> (actually it's more complicated, see
>https://reviews.llvm.org/D54604)
>>>
>>> -ftrivial-auto-var-init=zero provides zero-initialization of locals.
>>> This mode isn't officially supported yet and is hidden behind an
>additional
>>>
>-enable-trivial-auto-var-init-zero-knowing-it-will-be-removed-from-clang
>flag.
>>> This is done to avoid creating a C++ dialect where all variables are
>>> zero-initialized.
>>>
>>> Starting v5.2, Linux kernel has a CONFIG_INIT_STACK_ALL config that
>performs
>>> the build with -ftrivial-auto-var-init=pattern. This one isn't
>widely adopted
>>> yet, partially because initializing locals with 0xAA isn't fast
>enough.
>>>
>>> Linus Torvalds is quite positive about zero-initializing the locals
>though,
>>> see https://lkml.org/lkml/2019/7/30/1303:
>>>
>>> "when a compiler has an option to initialize stack variables, it
>>> would probably _also_ be a very good idea for that compiler to then
>>> support a variable attribute that says "don't initialize _this_
>>> variable, I will do that manually".
>>> I also think that the "initialize with poison" is
>>> pointless and wrong. Yes, it can find bugs, but it doesn't really
>help
>>> improve the general situation, and people see it as a debugging
>tool,
>>> not a "improve code quality and improve the life of kernel
>developers"
>>> tool.
>>>
>>> So having a flag similar to -ftrivial-auto-var-init=zero in GCC will
>be
>>> appreciated by the Linux kernel community.
>>>
>>> currently, kernel is using a gcc plugin to support stack variables
>>> auto-initialization:
>>>
>https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/scripts/gcc-plugins/structleak_plugin.c
>>>
>>> ** Current situation:
>>>
>>> A. Both Microsoft compiler and CLANG (APPLE AND GOOGLE) support
>pattern init and
>>> zero init already;
>>> http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/cfe-dev/2020-April/065221.html
>>>
>https://msrc-blog.microsoft.com/2020/05/13/solving-uninitialized-stack-memory-on-windows/
>>> Pattern init is used in development build for debugging purpose,
>zero init is
>>> used in production build for security purpose.
>>>
>>> B. for CLANG, even though zero init is controlled by
>>>
>"-fenable-trivial-auto-var-init-zero-knowing-it-will-be-removed-from-clang",
>>> many end users have used it for production build.
>>> this functionality cannot be removed anymore.
>>>
>"-fenable-trivial-auto-var-init-zero-knowing-it-will-be-removed-from-clang"
>>> might be changed to more meaningful name later in CLANG.
>>>
>>>
>>> ** My proposal:
>>>
>>> A. add a new GCC option: (same name and meaning as CLANG)
>>> -ftrivial-auto-var-init=[pattern|zero], similar pattern init as
>CLANG;
>>>
>>> B. add a new attribute for variable:
>>> __attribute((uninitialized)
>>> the marked variable is uninitialized intentionaly for performance
>purpose.
>>>
>>> C. The implementation needs to keep the current static warning on
>uninitialized
>>> variables untouched in order to avoid "forking the language”.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 25, 2020, at 3:11 AM, Richard Biener
><richard.guenther@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am planing to add a new phase immediately after
>“pass_late_warn_uninitialized” to initialize all auto-variables that
>are
>>> not explicitly initialized in the declaration, the basic idea is
>following:
>>>
>>> ** The proposal:
>>>
>>> A. add a new GCC option: (same name and meaning as CLANG)
>>> -ftrivial-auto-var-init=[pattern|zero], similar pattern init as
>CLANG;
>>>
>>> B. add a new attribute for variable:
>>> __attribute((uninitialized)
>>> the marked variable is uninitialized intentionaly for performance
>purpose.
>>>
>>> C. The implementation needs to keep the current static warning on
>uninitialized
>>> variables untouched in order to avoid "forking the language".
>>>
>>>
>>> ** The implementation:
>>>
>>> There are two major requirements for the implementation:
>>>
>>> 1. all auto-variables that do not have an explicit initializer
>should be initialized to
>>> zero by this option. (Same behavior as CLANG)
>>>
>>> 2. keep the current static warning on uninitialized variables
>untouched.
>>>
>>> In order to satisfy 1, we should check whether an auto-variable has
>initializer
>>> or not;
>>> In order to satisfy 2, we should add this new transformation after
>>> "pass_late_warn_uninitialized".
>>>
>>> So, we should be able to check whether an auto-variable has
>initializer or not after “pass_late_warn_uninitialized”,
>>> If Not, then insert an initialization for it.
>>>
>>> For this purpose, I guess that “FOR_EACH_LOCAL_DECL” might be
>better?
>>>
>>>
>>> I think both as long as they are source-level auto-variables. Then
>which one is better?
>>>
>>>
>>> Another issue is, in order to check whether an auto-variable has
>initializer, I plan to add a new bit in “decl_common” as:
>>> /* In a VAR_DECL, this is DECL_IS_INITIALIZED. */
>>> unsigned decl_is_initialized :1;
>>>
>>> /* IN VAR_DECL, set when the decl is initialized at the declaration.
> */
>>> #define DECL_IS_INITIALIZED(NODE) \
>>> (DECL_COMMON_CHECK (NODE)->decl_common.decl_is_initialized)
>>>
>>> set this bit when setting DECL_INITIAL for the variables in FE. then
>keep it
>>> even though DECL_INITIAL might be NULLed.
>>>
>>>
>>> For locals it would be more reliable to set this
>flag-Wmaybe-uninitialized.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You mean I can set the flag “DECL_IS_INITIALIZED (decl)” inside the
>routine “gimpley_decl_expr” (gimplify.c) as following:
>>>
>>> if (VAR_P (decl) && !DECL_EXTERNAL (decl))
>>> {
>>> tree init = DECL_INITIAL (decl);
>>> ...
>>> if (init && init != error_mark_node)
>>> {
>>> if (!TREE_STATIC (decl))
>>> {
>>> DECL_IS_INITIALIZED(decl) = 1;
>>> }
>>>
>>> Is this enough for all Frontends? Are there other places that I need
>to maintain this bit?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you have any comment and suggestions?
>>>
>>>
>>> As said above - do you want to cover registers as well as locals?
>>>
>>>
>>> All the locals from the source-code point of view should be covered.
> (From my study so far, looks like that Clang adds that phase in FE).
>>> If GCC adds this phase in FE, then the following design requirement
>>>
>>> C. The implementation needs to keep the current static warning on
>uninitialized
>>> variables untouched in order to avoid "forking the language”.
>>>
>>> cannot be satisfied. Since gcc’s uninitialized variables analysis
>is applied quite late.
>>>
>>> So, we have to add this new phase after
>“pass_late_warn_uninitialized”.
>>>
>>> I'd do
>>> the actual zeroing during RTL expansion instead since otherwise you
>>> have to figure youself whether a local is actually used (see
>expand_stack_vars)
>>>
>>>
>>> Adding this new transformation during RTL expansion is okay. I
>will check on this in more details to see how to add it to RTL
>expansion phase.
>>>
>>>
>>> Note that optimization will already made have use of "uninitialized"
>state
>>> of locals so depending on what the actual goal is here "late" may be
>too late.
>>>
>>>
>>> This is a really good point…
>>>
>>> In order to avoid optimization to use the “uninitialized” state of
>locals, we should add the zeroing phase as early as possible (adding it
>in FE might be best
>>> for this issue). However, if we have to met the following
>requirement:
>>>
>>>
>>> So is optimization supposed to pick up zero or is it supposed to act
>>> as if the initializer
>>> is unknown?
>>>
>>> C. The implementation needs to keep the current static warning on
>uninitialized
>>> variables untouched in order to avoid "forking the language”.
>>>
>>> We have to move the new phase after all the uninitialized analysis
>is done in order to avoid “forking the language”.
>>>
>>> So, this is a problem that is not easy to resolve.
>>>
>>>
>>> Indeed, those are conflicting goals.
>>>
>>> Do you have suggestion on this?
>>>
>>>
>>> No, not any easy ones. Doing more of the uninit analysis early
>(there
>>> is already an early
>>> uninit pass) which would mean doing IPA analysis turing GCC into
>more
>>> of a static analysis
>>> tool. Theres the analyzer now, not sure if that can employ an early
>>> LTO phase for example.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard.
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Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-11-23 23:05 Qing Zhao
2020-11-24 7:32 ` Richard Biener
2020-11-24 15:47 ` Qing Zhao
2020-11-24 15:55 ` Richard Biener
2020-11-24 16:54 ` Qing Zhao
2020-11-25 9:11 ` Richard Biener
2020-11-25 17:41 ` Qing Zhao
2020-12-01 19:47 ` Qing Zhao
2020-12-02 8:45 ` Richard Biener
2020-12-02 15:36 ` Qing Zhao
2020-12-03 8:45 ` Richard Biener
2020-12-03 16:07 ` Qing Zhao
2020-12-03 16:36 ` Richard Biener [this message]
2020-12-03 16:40 ` Qing Zhao
2020-12-03 16:56 ` Richard Sandiford
2020-11-26 0:08 ` Martin Sebor
2020-11-30 16:23 ` Qing Zhao
2020-11-30 17:18 ` Martin Sebor
2020-11-30 23:05 ` Qing Zhao
2020-12-03 17:32 ` Richard Sandiford
2020-12-03 23:04 ` Qing Zhao
2020-12-04 8:50 ` Richard Biener
2020-12-04 16:19 ` Qing Zhao
2020-12-07 7:12 ` Richard Biener
2020-12-07 16:20 ` Qing Zhao
2020-12-07 17:10 ` Richard Sandiford
2020-12-07 17:36 ` Qing Zhao
2020-12-07 18:05 ` Richard Sandiford
2020-12-07 18:34 ` Qing Zhao
2020-12-08 7:35 ` Richard Biener
2020-12-08 7:40 ` Richard Biener
2020-12-08 19:54 ` Qing Zhao
2020-12-09 8:23 ` Richard Biener
2020-12-09 15:04 ` Qing Zhao
2020-12-09 15:12 ` Richard Biener
2020-12-09 16:18 ` Qing Zhao
2021-01-05 19:05 ` The performance data for two different implementation of new security feature -ftrivial-auto-var-init Qing Zhao
2021-01-05 19:10 ` Qing Zhao
2021-01-12 20:34 ` Qing Zhao
2021-01-13 7:39 ` Richard Biener
2021-01-13 15:06 ` Qing Zhao
2021-01-13 15:10 ` Richard Biener
2021-01-13 15:35 ` Qing Zhao
2021-01-13 15:40 ` Richard Biener
2021-01-14 21:16 ` Qing Zhao
2021-01-15 8:11 ` Richard Biener
2021-01-15 16:16 ` Qing Zhao
2021-01-15 17:22 ` Richard Biener
2021-01-15 17:57 ` Qing Zhao
2021-01-18 13:09 ` Richard Sandiford
2021-01-18 16:12 ` Qing Zhao
2021-02-01 19:12 ` Qing Zhao
2021-02-02 7:43 ` Richard Biener
2021-02-02 15:17 ` Qing Zhao
2021-02-02 23:32 ` Qing Zhao
2020-12-07 17:21 ` How to traverse all the local variables that declared in the current routine? Richard Sandiford
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