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From: Richard Sandiford <richard.sandiford@linaro.org>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>,
	 "H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>,
	 Alexander Monakov <amonakov@ispras.ru>,
	 Michael Matz <matz@suse.de>,  Uros Bizjak <ubizjak@gmail.com>,
	 "gcc-patches\@gcc.gnu.org" <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] i386: Don't use frame pointer without stack access
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2017 20:05:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878tivdtz9.fsf@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9c734d2b-7ba2-057b-7505-a7b300cde472@linux.intel.com> (Arjan van	de Ven's message of "Mon, 7 Aug 2017 09:06:05 -0700")

Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com> writes:
> On 8/7/2017 8:43 AM, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 07, 2017 at 08:39:24AM -0700, H.J. Lu wrote:
>>> When Linux/x86-64 kernel is compiled with -fno-omit-frame-pointer.
>>> this optimization removes more than 730
>>>
>>> pushq %rbp
>>> movq %rsp, %rbp
>>> popq %rbp
>>
>> If you don't want the frame pointer, why are you compiling with
>> -fno-omit-frame-pointer?  Are you going to add
>> -fforce-no-omit-frame-pointer or something similar so that people can
>> actually get what they are asking for?  This doesn't really make sense.
>> It is perfectly fine to omit frame pointer by default, when it isn't
>> required for something, but if the user asks for it, we shouldn't ignore his
>> request.
>>
>
>
> wanting a framepointer is very nice and desired...  ... but if the
> optimizer/ins scheduler moves instructions outside of the frame'd
> portion, (it does it for cases like below as well), the value is
> already negative for these functions that don't have stack use.
>
> <MPIDU_Sched_are_pending@@Base>:
> mov    all_schedules@@Base-0x38460,%rax
> push   %rbp
> mov    %rsp,%rbp
> pop    %rbp
> cmpq   $0x0,(%rax)
> setne  %al
> movzbl %al,%eax
> retq

Yeah, and it could be even weirder for big single-block functions.
I think GCC has been doing this kind of scheduling of prologue and
epilogue instructions for a while, so there hasn*t really been a
guarantee which parts of the function will have a new FP and which
will still have the old one.

Also, with an arbitrarily-picked host compiler (GCC 6.3.1), shrink-wrapping
kicks in when the following is compiled with -O3 -fno-omit-frame-pointer:

    void f (int *);
    void
    g (int *x)
    {
      for (int i = 0; i < 1000; ++i)
        x[i] += 1;
      if (x[0])
        {
          int temp;
          f (&temp);
        }
    }

so only the block with the call to f sets up FP.  The relatively
long-running loop runs with the caller's FP.

I hope we can go for a target-independent position that what HJ*s
patch does is OK...

Thanks,
Richard

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-08-07 20:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-06 19:40 H.J. Lu
2017-08-07  6:21 ` Uros Bizjak
2017-08-07 13:15   ` Michael Matz
2017-08-07 13:21     ` Uros Bizjak
2017-08-07 13:25       ` H.J. Lu
2017-08-07 13:32         ` Michael Matz
2017-08-07 13:38           ` H.J. Lu
2017-08-07 13:49             ` Michael Matz
2017-08-07 14:06               ` Alexander Monakov
2017-08-07 15:39                 ` H.J. Lu
2017-08-07 15:43                   ` Jakub Jelinek
2017-08-07 16:06                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2017-08-07 16:16                       ` Michael Matz
2017-08-07 16:19                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2017-08-07 16:21                           ` H.J. Lu
2017-08-07 16:28                           ` Michael Matz
2017-08-07 20:05                       ` Richard Sandiford [this message]
2017-08-08 16:38                         ` H.J. Lu
2017-08-08 17:01                           ` Richard Biener
2017-08-08 17:34                             ` Richard Sandiford
2017-08-08 17:36                               ` Richard Sandiford
2017-08-08 18:00                                 ` Richard Biener
2017-08-08 18:29                                   ` H.J. Lu
2017-08-09  7:53                                   ` Richard Sandiford
2017-08-09 11:22                                     ` Richard Biener
2017-08-09 11:31                                       ` H.J. Lu
2017-08-09 11:59                                         ` Michael Matz
2017-08-09 12:27                                           ` H.J. Lu
2017-08-09 15:04                                             ` Andi Kleen
2017-08-09 15:05                                               ` Arjan van de Ven
2017-08-09 15:14                                                 ` H.J. Lu
2017-08-09 15:26                                                   ` Andi Kleen
2017-08-09 17:28                                                     ` H.J. Lu
2017-08-09 18:31                                                       ` H.J. Lu
2017-08-10  7:19                                                         ` Richard Sandiford
2017-08-10  7:40                                                           ` Richard Sandiford
2017-08-10  7:51                                                           ` Uros Bizjak
2017-08-10 14:07                                                             ` H.J. Lu
2017-08-08 17:05                           ` Uros Bizjak
2017-08-07 18:40               ` Uros Bizjak
2017-08-07 13:38           ` Andreas Schwab

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