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From: Zack Weinberg <zack@codesourcery.com>
To: kenner@vlsi1.ultra.nyu.edu (Richard Kenner)
Cc: gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: [patch] for PR 18040
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 22:47:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87acuiqqje.fsf@codesourcery.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <10410181423.AA03699@vlsi1.ultra.nyu.edu> (Richard Kenner's message of "Mon, 18 Oct 04 10:23:01 EDT")

kenner@vlsi1.ultra.nyu.edu (Richard Kenner) writes:

> [First of all, let me apologize about the lack of threading.  I *do* have
> the sources I need to implement that, but I want to catch up on some of
> the technical stuff (ACATS bugs) first.]
>
>     Ok.  Does that also address the objection you raised to the
>     pointer-punning operation at the outermost level?
>
> The *correctness* objection, yes, but not the code quality
> objection.  We'd have a situation where it's impossible for the tree
> optimizers to improve the code because there's no way of
> representing the improvement.  That's bad.

The tree optimizers do better on simple operations, which is why we
have GIMPLE in the first place.  In fact, some people have argued that
we should be breaking up _all_ chains of dereference operations so
that the optimizers can see better.

>     The goal is not to be able to represent as one statement every
>     operation that can be encoded in one machine instruction, and it is
>     certainly not to be able to represent as one statement every primitive
>     operation of every supported language.
>
> No, of course not.  But I thought the idea is to encode each statement as
> one *expansion* operation.

I do not understand this statement.

zw

  reply	other threads:[~2004-10-19 22:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-10-18 14:22 Richard Kenner
2004-10-19 22:47 ` Zack Weinberg [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-10-20 13:27 Richard Kenner
2004-10-20  0:25 Richard Kenner
2004-10-19 23:26 Richard Kenner
2004-10-19 23:22 Richard Kenner
2004-10-19 23:03 Richard Kenner
2004-10-19 23:13 ` Jason Merrill
2004-10-19 22:48 Richard Kenner
2004-10-19 23:01 ` Jason Merrill
2004-10-19 23:07 ` Zack Weinberg
2004-10-18 17:48 Richard Kenner
2004-10-18 15:42 Richard Kenner
2004-10-18 14:52 Richard Kenner
2004-10-18 15:20 ` Daniel Berlin
2004-10-18 14:38 Richard Kenner
2004-10-18 14:24 Richard Kenner
2004-10-19 22:50 ` Zack Weinberg
2004-10-18  3:12 Richard Kenner
2004-10-18  4:02 ` Zack Weinberg
2004-10-18  4:26   ` Daniel Berlin
2004-10-18  2:46 Richard Kenner
2004-10-18  2:38 Richard Kenner
2004-10-18  3:14 ` Zack Weinberg
2004-10-18  2:35 Richard Kenner
2004-10-18  2:51 ` Zack Weinberg
2004-10-17 23:06 Richard Kenner
2004-10-17 23:45 ` Zack Weinberg
2004-10-18  0:23   ` Zack Weinberg
2004-10-17 22:30 Richard Kenner
2004-10-17 22:36 ` Andrew Pinski
2004-10-17 23:41 ` Zack Weinberg
2004-10-18 13:13   ` Florian Weimer
2004-10-18 17:24     ` Jason Merrill
2004-10-18 17:37       ` Florian Weimer
2004-10-18 18:02         ` Jason Merrill
2004-10-19 22:40     ` Zack Weinberg
2004-10-17 21:24 Richard Kenner
2004-10-17 21:43 ` Zack Weinberg
2004-10-17 21:18 Richard Kenner
2004-10-17 21:26 ` Zack Weinberg
2004-10-17 21:04 Richard Kenner
2004-10-17 21:10 ` Zack Weinberg
2004-10-19 21:36   ` Richard Henderson
2004-10-19 22:19     ` Daniel Berlin
2004-10-20  7:03       ` Jason Merrill
2004-10-19 22:51     ` Zack Weinberg
2004-10-20  0:02       ` Richard Henderson
2004-10-17 20:25 Richard Kenner
2004-10-17 20:47 ` Daniel Berlin
2004-10-17 20:17 Richard Kenner
2004-10-17 20:25 ` Daniel Berlin
2004-10-17 19:46 Richard Kenner
2004-10-17 19:46 ` Daniel Berlin
2004-10-17 19:48 ` Zdenek Dvorak
2004-10-17 20:01   ` Daniel Berlin
2004-10-17 19:28 Zdenek Dvorak
2004-10-19 21:36 ` Richard Henderson
2004-10-19 22:03   ` Zdenek Dvorak
2004-10-19 22:04     ` Andrew Pinski
2004-10-19 22:06       ` Zdenek Dvorak

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