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From: Richard Sandiford <rdsandiford@googlemail.com>
To: Andrew MacLeod <amacleod@redhat.com>
Cc: Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com>,
	 Bernd Schmidt <bernds@codesourcery.com>,
	 Jeff Law <law@redhat.com>,  David Malcolm <dmalcolm@redhat.com>,
	 GCC Patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] Conversion of gimple types to C++ inheritance (v3)
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 12:35:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87d2m8ec8i.fsf@talisman.default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <527AACE6.3040005@redhat.com> (Andrew MacLeod's message of "Wed,	06 Nov 2013 15:56:06 -0500")

Andrew MacLeod <amacleod@redhat.com> writes:
> 2 - I really believe gimple needs a type system different from front end 
> trees, that is my primary motivation.  I'm tired of jumping through 
> hoops to do anything slightly different, and I got fed up with it.  With 
> a separate type system for gimple, we can rid ourselves of all the stuff 
> that isn't related to optimization and codegen...   Could we do this 
> with trees? possibly, but if I'm going to go to the effort of converting 
> the front end tree types into a new or reduced-type subset, I might as 
> well put that effort into something that is more appropriate right from 
> the start.

But what types specifically are you hoping to drop?  Would there still
be enough information for proper TBAA, for instance?

Having two different type representations just sounds like it's going
to lead to code duplication for common operations.

Plus I'd really not like to see targets have to deal with two different
representations of types.  Sometimes the things that the target
has to do only make sense "at the tree level" (e.g. providing the
definition of va_list).  Some are on the boundary, such as lowering
va_arg into gimple.  Some could potentially be used in both places,
e.g. the hook to determine the correct alignment for a vector.
(I can imagine we'd want to be able to call that at the tree level for
user-defined vectors passed to __alignof, say, but also at the gimple
level when vectorising.)  Others are called during expand, e.g. PROMOTE_MODE.

Thanks,
Richard

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-11-10 11:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-31  5:45 RFC: gimple.[ch] break apart Andrew MacLeod
2013-10-31  6:15 ` Jeff Law
2013-10-31 16:41 ` [PATCH 0/6] Conversion of gimple types to C++ inheritance (v3) David Malcolm
2013-10-31 16:27   ` [PATCH 1/6] Convert gimple types from a union to C++ inheritance David Malcolm
2013-11-14 23:00     ` Jeff Law
2013-11-19  0:22       ` David Malcolm
2013-11-19  8:49         ` Jeff Law
2013-10-31 16:27   ` [PATCH 4/6] Implement is_a_helper <>::test specializations for various gimple types David Malcolm
2013-11-14  9:41     ` Jeff Law
2013-11-18 19:51       ` David Malcolm
2013-11-18 20:10         ` Andrew MacLeod
2013-11-18 20:15         ` Jeff Law
2013-10-31 16:27   ` [PATCH 2/6] Hand-written port of various accessors within gimple.h David Malcolm
2013-11-14  9:53     ` Jeff Law
2013-10-31 16:31   ` [PATCH 3/6] Automated part of conversion of gimple types to use C++ inheritance David Malcolm
2013-11-14  9:43     ` Jeff Law
2013-11-18 22:17       ` [PATCH] Updated automated patch (was Re: [PATCH 3/6] Automated part of conversion of gimple types to use C++ inheritance) David Malcolm
2013-11-19  8:49         ` Jeff Law
2013-11-19 16:36           ` David Malcolm
2013-11-22  0:27         ` Jakub Jelinek
2013-11-22  0:35           ` Jeff Law
2013-11-22  1:51             ` Jakub Jelinek
2013-11-22  2:52               ` Andrew MacLeod
2013-11-22  3:48                 ` David Malcolm
2013-11-25 18:09                 ` [PATCH] Fix checking of gimple types David Malcolm
2013-11-25 18:42                   ` Michael Matz
2013-11-25 22:18                   ` Jeff Law
2013-11-27  8:54                     ` David Malcolm
2014-07-23 13:16                   ` Thomas Schwinge
2014-07-24  1:50                     ` David Malcolm
2014-07-29  8:11                       ` Thomas Schwinge
2013-10-31 16:46   ` [PATCH 6/6] Update gdb hooks to reflect changes to " David Malcolm
2013-11-14  9:10     ` Jeff Law
2013-10-31 16:49   ` [PATCH 5/6] Port various places from union access to subclass access David Malcolm
2013-11-14  9:23     ` Jeff Law
2013-11-19  0:52       ` David Malcolm
2013-10-31 18:43   ` [PATCH 0/6] Conversion of gimple types to C++ inheritance (v3) Basile Starynkevitch
2013-11-01 21:36   ` Andrew MacLeod
2013-11-01 21:41     ` Jakub Jelinek
2013-11-01 21:47       ` Andrew MacLeod
2013-11-01 21:57         ` Jakub Jelinek
2013-11-01 22:58           ` David Malcolm
2013-11-04 13:23             ` Andrew MacLeod
2013-11-04 21:52               ` David Malcolm
2013-11-04 22:09                 ` David Malcolm
2013-11-04 22:31                   ` Andrew MacLeod
2013-11-05 21:27                     ` Jeff Law
2013-11-04 22:43                   ` Andrew MacLeod
2013-11-04 22:28                 ` Jakub Jelinek
2013-11-04 22:49                   ` Andrew MacLeod
2013-11-05 21:09                   ` Jeff Law
2013-11-05 11:53                 ` Richard Biener
2013-11-05 12:33                   ` David Malcolm
2013-11-05 12:52                     ` Richard Biener
2013-11-04 14:00           ` Andrew MacLeod
2013-11-04 14:01             ` Jakub Jelinek
2013-11-04 14:15               ` Andrew MacLeod
2013-11-04 18:23       ` Jeff Law
2013-11-01 22:43     ` David Malcolm
2013-11-01 23:43       ` Trevor Saunders
2013-11-04 13:15       ` Andrew MacLeod
2013-11-05 17:23     ` [PATCH] Add gimple subclasses for every gimple code (was Re: [PATCH 0/6] Conversion of gimple types to C++ inheritance (v3)) David Malcolm
2013-11-06 16:53       ` Michael Matz
2013-11-07  6:19         ` David Malcolm
2013-11-07  7:08           ` Jeff Law
2013-11-08 19:23             ` David Malcolm
2013-11-14  8:38               ` Jeff Law
2013-11-14 15:06                 ` Michael Matz
2013-11-14 18:32                 ` David Malcolm
2013-11-15  2:49                   ` Jeff Law
2013-11-07 14:57           ` Michael Matz
2013-11-08  0:07         ` Alec Teal
2013-11-08 14:31           ` Michael Matz
2013-11-05 18:22     ` [PATCH 0/6] Conversion of gimple types to C++ inheritance (v3) Andrew MacLeod
2013-11-05 21:33   ` Jeff Law
2013-11-05 22:01     ` David Malcolm
2013-11-05 22:17       ` Jeff Law
2013-11-06  1:14         ` Ian Lance Taylor
2013-11-06 20:49           ` Jeff Law
2013-11-06 20:57             ` Trevor Saunders
2013-11-05 22:24       ` Andrew MacLeod
2013-11-05 22:12     ` Andrew MacLeod
2013-11-06  9:37     ` Richard Biener
2013-11-06 11:20       ` Bernd Schmidt
2013-11-06 11:43         ` Richard Biener
2013-11-06 11:53           ` Jakub Jelinek
2013-11-06 13:14             ` Richard Biener
2013-11-06 13:23               ` Jakub Jelinek
2013-11-06 16:42                 ` David Malcolm
2013-11-06 16:55                   ` Jakub Jelinek
2013-11-06 18:34                     ` Tom Tromey
2013-11-06 19:15                       ` Jeff Law
2013-11-06 20:05                         ` Tom Tromey
2013-11-06 20:45                           ` Jeff Law
2013-11-06 13:31             ` Joseph S. Myers
2013-11-06 21:25               ` Jeff Law
2013-11-06 21:09             ` Jeff Law
2013-11-06 12:42           ` Bernd Schmidt
2013-11-06 21:04           ` Jeff Law
2013-11-06 21:06           ` Andrew MacLeod
2013-11-06 21:52             ` Jeff Law
2013-11-07 10:29             ` Richard Biener
2013-11-07 14:01               ` Joseph S. Myers
2013-11-07 14:42                 ` Richard Biener
2013-11-07 14:53               ` Andrew MacLeod
2013-11-10 12:35             ` Richard Sandiford [this message]
2013-11-10 15:27               ` Richard Biener
2013-11-06 11:56         ` Eric Botcazou
2013-11-06 20:51         ` Jeff Law
2013-11-06 21:26       ` Jeff Law
2013-11-14  8:40   ` Jeff Law
2013-11-05 16:58 ` [patch] Create gimple-expr..[ch] ... was Re: RFC: gimple.[ch] break apart Andrew MacLeod
2013-11-05 17:52   ` Jeff Law
2013-11-07 10:58   ` Basile Starynkevitch
2013-11-07 13:47     ` Andrew MacLeod
2013-11-07 18:13       ` Diego Novillo

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