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From: Richard Sandiford <richard.sandiford@arm.com>
To: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Bernd Edlinger <bernd.edlinger@hotmail.de>,
	 Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>,
	 Dimitar Dimitrov <dimitar@dinux.eu>,
	 Christophe Lyon <christophe.lyon@linaro.org>,
	 Thomas Preudhomme <thomas.preudhomme@linaro.org>,
	 "gcc-patches\@gcc.gnu.org" <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [RFC] PR target/52813 and target/11807
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2019 21:23:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zhs84374.fsf@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190110132111.GZ14180@gate.crashing.org> (Segher Boessenkool's	message of "Thu, 10 Jan 2019 07:21:12 -0600")

Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org> writes:
> On Tue, Jan 08, 2019 at 12:03:06PM +0000, Richard Sandiford wrote:
>> Bernd Edlinger <bernd.edlinger@hotmail.de> writes:
>> > Meanwhile I found out, that the stack clobber has only been ignored up to
>> > gcc-5 (at least with lra targets, not really sure about reload targets).
>> > From gcc-6 on, with the exception of PR arm/77904 which was a regression due
>> > to the underlying lra change, but fixed later, and back-ported to gcc-6.3.0,
>> > this works for all targets I tried so far.
>> >
>> > To me, it starts to look like a rather unique and useful feature, that I would
>> > like to keep working.
>> 
>> Not sure what you mean by "unique".  But forcing a frame is a bit of
>> a slippery concept.  Force it where?  For the asm only, or the whole
>> function?  This depends on optimisation and hasn't been consistent
>> across GCC versions, since it depends on the shrink-wrapping
>> optimisation.  (There was a similar controversy a while ago about
>> to what extent -fno-omit-frame-pointer should "force a frame".)
>
> It's not forcing a frame currently: it's just setting frame_pointer_needed.
> Whatever happens from that is the target's business.

Do you mean the asm clobber or -fno-omit-frame-pointer?  If the option,
then yeah, and that was exactly what was controversial :-)

>> The effect on the redzone seems like something that should be specified
>> explicitly rather than as an (accidental?) side effect of listing the
>> sp in the clobber list.  Maybe this would be another use for the "asm
>> attributes" proposal.  "noreturn" was another attribute suggested on
>> IRC yesterday.
>
> Redzone is target-dependent.

Right.  Target-dependent asm attributes wouldn't be a problem though.
Most other things about an asm are target-dependent anyway.

> "noreturn"...  What would that mean, *exactly*?  It cannot execute any
> code the compiler can see, so such asm is better off as real asm anyway
> (not inline asm).

"Exactly" is a strong word, and this wasn't my proposal, but...
I think it would act like a noreturn call to an unknown function.
Output operands wouldn't make sense, and arguably clobbers wouldn't
either.

Thanks,
Richard

>> But either way, the general feeling seems to be that going straight to a
>> hard error is too harsh, since there's quite a bit of existing code that
>> has the clobber.  This patch implements the compromise discussed on IRC
>> yesterday of making it a -Wdeprecated warning instead.
>
> The patch looks fine to me.  Thanks!
>
>
> Segher

  reply	other threads:[~2019-01-10 21:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-16 14:36 Bernd Edlinger
2018-12-16 16:14 ` Dimitar Dimitrov
2018-12-17 11:47   ` Richard Sandiford
2018-12-17 12:54     ` Christophe Lyon
2018-12-17 13:35       ` Richard Sandiford
2018-12-17 13:42         ` Christophe Lyon
2018-12-17 14:05           ` Bernd Edlinger
2018-12-17 14:10         ` Bernd Edlinger
2018-12-17 15:55     ` Segher Boessenkool
2018-12-17 18:46       ` Richard Sandiford
2018-12-17 20:15         ` Bernd Edlinger
2018-12-19  6:40           ` Dimitar Dimitrov
2018-12-19  9:29             ` Segher Boessenkool
2018-12-18 14:16     ` Bernd Edlinger
2018-12-18 15:14       ` Bernd Edlinger
2019-01-07  9:23   ` Jakub Jelinek
2019-01-07 21:51     ` Bernd Edlinger
2019-01-08 12:03       ` Richard Sandiford
2019-01-10 13:21         ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-01-10 21:23           ` Richard Sandiford [this message]
2019-01-10 21:26             ` Jakub Jelinek
2019-01-10 21:56               ` Richard Sandiford
2019-01-11 12:26                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-01-10 22:32             ` Bernd Edlinger
2019-01-11 12:18             ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-01-11 12:23               ` Richard Sandiford
2019-01-11 22:59         ` Jeff Law
2019-01-17 14:27           ` Christophe Lyon
2019-01-18  9:49             ` Richard Sandiford
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-12-09 10:09 Dimitar Dimitrov
2018-12-10 11:21 ` Richard Sandiford
2018-12-10 19:36   ` Dimitar Dimitrov
2018-12-11 15:52     ` Richard Sandiford
2018-12-12  9:42       ` Christophe Lyon
2018-12-12 10:03         ` Christophe Lyon
2018-12-12 16:39           ` Dimitar Dimitrov
2018-12-12 10:30         ` Thomas Preudhomme
2018-12-12 11:21           ` Thomas Preudhomme
2018-12-12 13:19             ` Christophe Lyon
2018-12-12 15:13               ` Christophe Lyon
2018-12-12 15:35                 ` Thomas Preudhomme
2018-12-12 16:26               ` Dimitar Dimitrov
2018-12-13 14:49                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2018-12-13 22:21                   ` Dimitar Dimitrov
2018-12-14  8:52                     ` Segher Boessenkool
2018-12-16  8:43                       ` Dimitar Dimitrov
2018-12-17 15:23                         ` Segher Boessenkool
2018-12-14 13:49               ` Richard Sandiford
2018-12-15 15:38                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2018-12-12 11:24 ` Andreas Schwab

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