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From: Richard Biener <rguenther@suse.de>
To: "Andre Vieira (lists)" <andre.simoesdiasvieira@arm.com>
Cc: "gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org" <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>,
	 richard.sandiford@arm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1v2/3][vect] Add main vectorized loop unrolling
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2021 12:00:20 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8p72o15s-5894-4or0-409r-oo4p74o238r1@fhfr.qr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <475fae98-9541-5dca-2e60-eaff172ff787@arm.com>

On Wed, 24 Nov 2021, Andre Vieira (lists) wrote:

> 
> On 22/11/2021 12:39, Richard Biener wrote:
> > +  if (first_loop_vinfo->suggested_unroll_factor > 1)
> > +    {
> > +      if (LOOP_VINFO_EPIL_USING_PARTIAL_VECTORS_P (first_loop_vinfo))
> > +       {
> > +         if (dump_enabled_p ())
> > +           dump_printf_loc (MSG_NOTE, vect_location,
> > +                            "***** Re-trying analysis with first vector
> > mode"
> > +                            " %s for epilogue with partial vectors of"
> > +                            " unrolled first loop.\n",
> > +                            GET_MODE_NAME (vector_modes[0]));
> > +         mode_i = 0;
> >
> > and the later done check for bigger VF than main loop - why would
> > we re-start at 0 rather than at the old mode?  Maybe we want to
> > remember the iterator value we started at when arriving at the
> > main loop mode?  So if we analyzed successfully with mode_i == 2,
> > then sucessfully at mode_i == 4 which suggested an unroll of 2,
> > re-start at the mode_i we continued after the mode_i == 2
> > successful analysis?  To just consider the "simple" case of
> > AVX vs SSE it IMHO doesn't make much sense to succeed with
> > AVX V4DF, succeed with SSE V2DF and figure it's better than V4DF AVX
> > but get a suggestion of 2 times unroll and then re-try AVX V4DF
> > just to re-compute that yes, it's worse than SSE V2DF?  You
> > are probably thinking of SVE vs ADVSIMD here but do we need to
> > start at 0?  Adding a comment to the code would be nice.
> >
> > Thanks,
> 
> I was indeed thinking SVE vs Advanced SIMD where we end up having to compare
> different vectorization strategies, which will have different costs depending.
> The hypothetical case, as in I don't think I've come across one, is where if
> we decide to vectorize the main loop for V8QI and unroll 2x, yielding a VF of
> 16, we may then want to then use a predicated VNx16QI epilogue.

But this isn't the epilogue handling ...

> Though the
> question here is whether it is possible for an Advanced SIMD V8QI
> vectorization to beat V16QI but a SVE predicated VNx16QI to beat a VNx8QI for
> the same loop.  Might be good to get Sandiford's opinion on this.
> 
> I do think that initially I was more concerned with skipping a VNx8QI after
> selecting a V8QI but I just checked and Advanced SIMD modes are listed before
> SVE for (among others) this reason.
> 
> Regards,
> Andre
> 
> 
> 

-- 
Richard Biener <rguenther@suse.de>
SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH, Maxfeldstrasse 5, 90409 Nuernberg,
Germany; GF: Ivo Totev; HRB 36809 (AG Nuernberg)

  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-24 11:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-17 15:27 [PATCH 0/3][vect] Enable vector unrolling of main loop Andre Vieira (lists)
2021-09-17 15:31 ` [PATCH 1/3][vect] Add main vectorized loop unrolling Andre Vieira (lists)
2021-09-21 12:30   ` Richard Biener
2021-09-21 16:34     ` Andre Vieira (lists)
2021-09-22  6:14       ` Richard Biener
2021-09-30  8:52         ` [PATCH 1v2/3][vect] " Andre Vieira (lists)
2021-10-01  8:19           ` Richard Biener
2021-10-04 16:30             ` Richard Sandiford
2021-10-12 10:35             ` Andre Vieira (lists)
2021-10-15  8:48               ` Richard Biener
2021-10-20 13:29                 ` Andre Vieira (lists)
2021-10-21 12:14                   ` Richard Biener
2021-10-22 10:18                     ` Richard Sandiford
2021-11-11 16:02                       ` Andre Vieira (lists)
2021-11-12 13:12                         ` Richard Biener
2021-11-22 11:41                           ` Andre Vieira (lists)
2021-11-22 12:39                             ` Richard Biener
2021-11-24  9:46                               ` Andre Vieira (lists)
2021-11-24 11:00                                 ` Richard Biener [this message]
2021-11-25 10:40                                   ` Andre Vieira (lists)
2021-11-25 12:46                                     ` Richard Biener
2021-11-30 11:36                                       ` Andre Vieira (lists)
2021-11-30 13:56                                         ` Richard Biener
2021-12-07 11:27                                           ` [vect] Re-analyze all modes for epilogues Andre Vieira (lists)
2021-12-07 11:31                                             ` Andre Vieira (lists)
2021-12-07 11:48                                               ` Richard Biener
2021-12-07 13:31                                                 ` Richard Sandiford
2021-12-07 13:33                                                   ` Richard Biener
2021-12-07 11:45                                             ` Richard Biener
2021-12-07 15:17                                               ` Andre Vieira (lists)
2021-12-13 16:41                                                 ` Andre Vieira (lists)
2021-12-14 11:39                                                   ` Richard Sandiford
2021-12-17 16:33                                                     ` Andre Vieira (lists)
2022-01-07 12:39                                                       ` Richard Sandiford
2022-01-10 18:31                                           ` [PATCH 1v2/3][vect] Add main vectorized loop unrolling Andre Vieira (lists)
2022-01-11  7:14                                             ` Richard Biener
2021-10-22 10:12                   ` Richard Sandiford
2021-09-17 15:32 ` [PATCH 2/3][vect] Consider outside costs earlier for epilogue loops Andre Vieira (lists)
2021-10-14 13:44   ` Andre Vieira (lists)
2021-10-22 15:33   ` Richard Sandiford

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