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From: Andrew Carlotti <andrew.carlotti@arm.com>
To: gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org,
	Richard Earnshaw <richard.earnshaw@arm.com>,
	richard.sandiford@arm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] aarch64: FMV feature list fixes
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2024 18:11:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9882a5b0-3970-5949-2fad-022cd06341f6@e124511.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mpt7ch5tbj6.fsf@arm.com>

On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 05:42:05PM +0100, Richard Sandiford wrote:
> Andrew Carlotti <andrew.carlotti@arm.com> writes:
> > On Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 04:43:16PM +0100, Richard Sandiford wrote:
> >> Andrew Carlotti <andrew.carlotti@arm.com> writes:
> >> > The first three patches are trivial changes to the feature list to reflect
> >> > recent changes in the ACLE.  Patch 4 removes most of the FMV multiversioning
> >> > features that don't work at the moment, and should be entirely uncontroversial.
> >> >
> >> > Patch 5 handles the remaining cases, where there's an inconsistency in how
> >> > features are named in the current FMV specification compared to the existing
> >> > command line options.  It might be better to instead preserve the "memtag2",
> >> > "ssbs2" and "ls64_accdata" names for now; I'd be happy to commit either
> >> > version.
> >> 
> >> Yeah, I suppose patch 5 leaves things in a somewhat awkward state,
> >> since e.g.:
> >> 
> >> -AARCH64_OPT_FMV_EXTENSION("memtag", MEMTAG, (), (), (), "")
> >> +AARCH64_OPT_EXTENSION("memtag", MEMTAG, (), (), (), "")
> >>  
> >> -AARCH64_FMV_FEATURE("memtag2", MEMTAG2, (MEMTAG))
> >> +AARCH64_FMV_FEATURE("memtag", MEMTAG2, (MEMTAG))
> >> 
> >> seems to drop "memtag2" and FEAT_MEMTAG, but keep "memtag" and
> >> FEAT_MEMTAG2.  Is that right?
> >
> > That's deliberate. The FEAT_MEMTAG bit in __aarch64_cpu_features is defined to
> > match the definition of FEAT_MTE in the architecture, and likewise for
> > FEAT_MEMTAG2/FEAT_MTE2.  However, in Binutils the "+memtag" extension enables
> > both FEAT_MTE and FEAT_MTE2 instructions (although none of the FEAT_MTE2
> > instructions can be generated from GCC without inline assembly).  The FMV
> > specification in the ACLE currently uses names "memtag" and "memtag2" that
> > match the architecture names, but arguably don't match the command line
> > extension names.  I'm advocating for that to change to match the extension
> > names in command line options.
> 
> Hmm, ok.  I agree it makes sense for the user-visible FMV namnes to match
> the command line.  But shouldn't __aarch64_cpu_features either (a) use exactly
> the same names as the architecture or (b) use exactly the same names as the
> command-line (mangled where necessary)?  It seems that we're instead
> using a third convention that doesn't exactly match the other two.

I agree that the name isn't one I would choose now, but I don't think it matters much that it's inconsistent.

> That is, I can see the rationale for "memtag" => FEAT_MTE2 and
> "memtag" => FEAT_MEMTAG.  It just seems odd to have "memtag" => FEAT_MEMTAG2
> (where MEMTAG2 is an alias of MTE2).
> 
> How much leeway do we have to change the __aarch64_cpu_features names?
> Is it supposed to be a public API (as opposed to ABI)?

I think we're designing it to be capable of being a public API, but we haven't
yet made it one.  That's partly why I've kept the enum value names the same as
in LLVM so far.

> > The LS64 example is definitely an inconsistency, since GCC uses "+ls64" to
> > enable intrinsics for all of the FEAT_LS64/FEAT_LS64_V/FEAT_LS64_ACCDATA
> > intrinsics.
> 
> Ok, thanks.  If we go for option (a) above then I agree that the ls64
> change is correct.  If we go for option (b) then I suppose it should
> stay as LS64.
> 
> > There were similar issues with "sha1", "pmull" and "sve2-pmull128", but in
> > these cases their presence architecturally is implied by the presence of the
> > features checked for "sha2", "aes" and "sve2-aes" so it's fine to just delete
> > the ones without command line flags.
> >
> >> Apart from that and the comment on patch 2, the series looks good to me.
> >> 
> >> While rechecking aarch64-option-extensions.def against the ACLE list:
> >> it seems that the .def doesn't treat mops as an FMV feature.  Is that
> >> deliberate?
> >
> > "mops" was added to the ACLE list later, and libgcc doesn't yet support
> > detecting it.  I didn't think it was sensible to add new FMV feature support at
> > this stage.
> 
> Ah, ok, makes sense.
> 
> Richard

  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-10 17:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-09 13:24 Andrew Carlotti
2024-04-09 13:24 ` [PATCH 1/5] aarch64: Reorder FMV feature priorities Andrew Carlotti
2024-04-09 13:25 ` [PATCH 2/5] aarch64: Don't use FEAT_MAX as array length Andrew Carlotti
2024-04-09 15:33   ` Richard Sandiford
2024-04-10 12:33     ` Andrew Carlotti
2024-04-09 13:26 ` [PATCH 3/5] aarch64: Fix typo and make rdma/rdm alias for FMV Andrew Carlotti
2024-04-09 13:26 ` [PATCH 4/5] aarch64: Remove unsupported FMV features Andrew Carlotti
2024-04-09 13:27 ` [PATCH 5/5] aarch64: Combine some " Andrew Carlotti
2024-04-09 15:43 ` [PATCH 0/5] aarch64: FMV feature list fixes Richard Sandiford
2024-04-10 11:10   ` Andrew Carlotti
2024-04-10 16:42     ` Richard Sandiford
2024-04-10 17:11       ` Andrew Carlotti [this message]
2024-04-10 18:51         ` Richard Sandiford
2024-04-10 19:03           ` Andrew Carlotti

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