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From: Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com>
To: Aldy Hernandez <aldyh@redhat.com>,Martin Sebor
	<msebor@gmail.com>,gcc-patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: protected alloca class for malloc fallback
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2016 17:56:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <A04768E7-68E6-4331-B5C4-1C28003BF383@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <57A4A5E8.90205@redhat.com>

On August 5, 2016 4:42:48 PM GMT+02:00, Aldy Hernandez <aldyh@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> I was surprised by the always_inline trick.  I suppose it makes
>> sense but I wouldn't have expected to be able to rely on it.  Out
>> of curiosity I tested it with other compilers.  It turns out that
>> it only works with some like GCC and IBM XLC++, but not others
>> like Clang or Sun CC.  In recursive calls, they don't seem to
>> hold on to the memory allocated via alloca by the class ctor in
>> the caller.
>
>Well, it was surprising to me as well, hence the comment.  I expected
>it 
>to just work, and when it didn't I had to hunt in the inliner code to 
>find out why it was selectively inlining:
>
>     case GIMPLE_CALL:
>    /* Refuse to inline alloca call unless user explicitly forced so as
>	 this may change program's memory overhead drastically when the
>	 function using alloca is called in loop.  In GCC present in
>	 SPEC2000 inlining into schedule_block cause it to require 2GB of
>	 RAM instead of 256MB.  Don't do so for alloca calls emitted for
>	 VLA objects as those can't cause unbounded growth (they're always
>	 wrapped inside stack_save/stack_restore regions.  */
>
>As Richi pointed out, if the constructor doesn't get inlined (as you're
>
>seeing in Clang and Sun CC), we could potentially clobber freed memory.
>
>  So much for that idea...
>
>>
>> FWIW, rather than creating a new class around alloca and putting
>> effort into changing code to use it I think that investing time
>> into replacing the function's uses with an existing C++ container
>> class (either GCC's own or one from the STL) might be a better
>> way to go.
>
>Yes, I suggested a combination of auto_vec<> (gcc's) and std::string 
>down thread.

Please don't use std::string.  For string building you can use obstacks.

Richard.

>Thanks for checking out the result from other compilers.  Much
>appreciated.
>
>Aldy


  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-05 17:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-04 11:30 Aldy Hernandez
2016-08-04 12:58 ` Richard Biener
2016-08-04 15:19   ` Aldy Hernandez
2016-08-04 19:24     ` Jeff Law
2016-08-05 14:37       ` Aldy Hernandez
2016-08-05 15:15         ` Pedro Alves
2016-08-05 16:23         ` Jeff Law
2016-08-05 17:48           ` Richard Biener
2016-08-05  8:17     ` Richard Biener
2016-08-04 19:06 ` Pedro Alves
2016-08-04 19:16   ` Jeff Law
2016-08-04 19:22     ` Pedro Alves
2016-08-04 19:26       ` Jeff Law
2016-08-04 19:31         ` Pedro Alves
2016-08-05  2:10 ` Martin Sebor
2016-08-05 14:42   ` Aldy Hernandez
2016-08-05 17:56     ` Richard Biener [this message]
2016-08-05 18:16       ` Oleg Endo
2016-08-05 20:07         ` Richard Biener
2016-08-06 10:09           ` Aldy Hernandez
2016-08-06 10:15           ` Aldy Hernandez
2016-08-06 15:08             ` Richard Biener
2016-08-08 17:00               ` Jeff Law
2016-08-08 17:32                 ` Trevor Saunders
2016-08-08 19:03                   ` Richard Biener
2016-08-09 11:34                   ` Oleg Endo
2016-08-09 17:34                     ` Trevor Saunders
2016-08-10 17:03                       ` Oleg Endo
2016-08-11  1:23                         ` Trevor Saunders
2016-08-11 12:18                           ` Oleg Endo
2016-08-11 17:55                             ` Trevor Saunders
2016-08-20  2:29                         ` Mike Stump
2016-08-21 20:00                           ` C++11? (Re: protected alloca class for malloc fallback) Pedro Alves
2016-08-22  7:10                             ` Trevor Saunders
2016-08-22  7:28                               ` Richard Biener
2016-08-22 12:02                             ` Eric Gallager
2016-08-22 12:58                               ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2016-08-22 22:08                               ` Mike Stump
2016-08-23 23:17                                 ` Eric Gallager
2016-08-09 13:17       ` protected alloca class for malloc fallback Aldy Hernandez
2016-08-09 13:21         ` Bernd Schmidt
2016-08-10 10:04         ` Richard Biener
2016-08-10 10:12           ` Aldy Hernandez
2016-08-10 10:39             ` Richard Biener
2016-08-10 18:00           ` Jeff Law
2016-08-10 18:33             ` Richard Biener
2016-08-16 16:28               ` Jeff Law
2016-08-16 16:44                 ` Jakub Jelinek
2016-08-16 16:47                   ` Jeff Law
2016-08-16 17:54                     ` Martin Sebor
2016-08-17  8:27                       ` Richard Biener
2016-08-17 13:39                         ` Martin Sebor

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