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From: Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com>
To: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Peter Bergner <bergner@linux.ibm.com>,
	GCC Patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] rs6000: Use NO_EXPR to cast to MMA pointer types
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2022 20:37:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <A76E62E1-4F48-4F04-84D9-1C591EC1D53C@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220905145108.GB25951@gate.crashing.org>



> Am 05.09.2022 um 16:53 schrieb Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>:
> 
> On Mon, Sep 05, 2022 at 11:25:21AM +0200, Richard Biener wrote:
>>> On Fri, Sep 2, 2022 at 7:24 PM Segher Boessenkool
>>> <segher@kernel.crashing.org> wrote:
>>> On Fri, Sep 02, 2022 at 12:02:54PM -0500, Peter Bergner wrote:
>>>> On 9/2/22 11:31 AM, Segher Boessenkool wrote:
>>>>> (Did you also look at non-MMA VIEW_CONVERT_EXPR uses btw?)
>>>> 
>>>> I did.  It seemed they were all related to pointers to vectors and I remember
>>>> you mentioning that as one of the reasons for using VIEW_CONVERT_EXPR over
>>>> NOP_EXPR, so I left them alone to be safe.
>>> 
>>> Huh?  I have no idea what you mean here.
>>> 
>>> Casting from one pointer type to another never needs it.  Casting from a
>>> scalar integer type to a pointer type not either AFAIKi.  But I am not a
>>> Gimple expert, all this might be wrong, it isn't documented anywbere :-(
>> 
>> NOP_EXPR is for conversions between types with the same kind
>> (and pointer-to-integer and integer-to-pointer
>> conversions when pointer and integer are of the same size).
>> When used on vectors it converts the vector elements.  When you want to
>> re-interpret V4SI as V4SF you need VIEW_CONVERT_EXPR (bit_cast),
>> likewise V4SI interpreted as V16QI needs that.
>> 
>> Think of VIEW_CONVERT as bit_cast and NOP_EXPR as conversion.
>> Of course for some conversions (like unsigned int to int) you can also
>> use a VIEW_CONVERT since it's semantically the same.  In those cases
>> we canonicalize to NOP_EXPR via folding.
> 
> Thanks for the explanation!
> 
> About that last point...  You say VIEW_CONVERT_EXPR is folded to
> NOP_EXPR where possible.  Does that happen in all cases / can we depend
> on that?  So that in target code like what started this thread the only
> real difference is documentation of intent?  (Which never is unimportant
> of course!)

You should be able to depend on that, yes.

Richard 

> 
> 
> Segher

      reply	other threads:[~2022-09-05 18:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-02 16:22 Peter Bergner
2022-09-02 16:31 ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-09-02 17:02   ` Peter Bergner
2022-09-02 17:23     ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-09-02 18:17       ` Peter Bergner
2022-09-05  9:25       ` Richard Biener
2022-09-05 14:51         ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-09-05 18:37           ` Richard Biener [this message]

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