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From: Bernd Edlinger <bernd.edlinger@hotmail.de>
To: Richard Biener <rguenther@suse.de>
Cc: Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>,
	Jonathan Wakely <jwakely@redhat.com>,
	Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	GCC Patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>,
	Jason Merrill <jason@redhat.com>, Jeff Law <law@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add a new type attribute always_alias (PR79671)
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2017 13:37:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AM4PR0701MB2162B27950FE5CB041677DF0E40C0@AM4PR0701MB2162.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LSU.2.20.1704070850260.30715@zhemvz.fhfr.qr>

On 04/07/17 08:54, Richard Biener wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Apr 2017, Bernd Edlinger wrote:
>> I think get_alias_set(t) will return 0 for typeless_storage
>> types, and therefore has_zero_child will be set anyway.
>> I think both mean the same thing in the end, but it depends on
>> what typeless_storage should actually mean, and we have
>> not yet the same idea about it.
>
> But has_zero_child does not do what we like it to because otherwise
> in the PR using the char[] array member would have worked!
>
> has_zero_child doesn't do that on purpose of course, but this means
> returing alias-set zero for the typeless storage _member_ doesn't
> suffice.
>

I see you have a certain idea how to solve the C++17 issue.
And yes, I apologize, if I tried to pee on your tree :)

What you propose is I think the following:
The C++ FE sets TYPE_TYPELESS_STORAGE a std::byte
and on "unsigned char" if the language dialect is cxx17
and the TBAA makes all the rest.

What I propose is as follows:
The TYPE_TYPELESS_STORAGE is a generic attribute, it
can be set on any type, and in the TBAA the attribute
does not squirrel around at all.  If it is on a type,
then all DECLs with this type get the alias set 0.
If it is on a member of a struct that does not mean
more than if the struct has a char member this it
sets has_zero_child, which I do not want to mean
anything else than before.

The C++ FE does the business logic here, in deciding
where to distribute the TYPE_TYPELESS_STORAGE flags.

in this example
class A {
   class B {
     std::byte x[5];
   } b;
};

std::byte, class B, and class A would get the
TYPE_TYPELESS_STORAGE flag set by the C++FE if
the language dialect is cxx17 or above,
so that you can place anything into any object
of class A and class B, and of type std::byte.

but in this example
class B {
   std::byte x;
};

only std::byte would get the TYPE_TYPELESS_STORAGE
flag, so you can not put anyting into an object
of class B, just on an object of std::byte.



>>
>> I wanted to be able to declare a int __attribute__((typeless_storage))
>> as in the test case, and the sample in the spec.  And that
>> information is not in the TYPE_MAIN_VARIANT.  Therefore I look for
>> typeless_storage before "t = TYPE_MAIN_VARIANT (t)".
>
> As I said I believe this is a useless feature.  If you want something
> typeless then the underlying type doesn't matter so we can as well
> force it to be an array of char.  Makes our live simpler.  And
> even makes the code portable to compilers that treat arrays of char
> conservatively.
>

I just learned that the C11 standard does not guarantee that, and also
an array of char does not provide the necessary alignment per se, at
least without alignment attributes.

>>
>> See cxx_type_contains_byte_buffer: this function looks recursively into
>> structures and unions, and returns the information if the beast
>> contains an array of unsigned char or std::byte.
>
> But with a properly designed middle-end feature that's not needed.
>
> There's technically no reason to pessimize TBAA for anything but
> the typeless storage member of a structure.
>

Yes, it is just a matter of taste.  And if you want the middle
end to be flexible here or if everything should work without user
intervention.


>>>
>>> @@ -1491,6 +1491,7 @@ struct GTY(()) tree_type_common {
>>>    unsigned needs_constructing_flag : 1;
>>>    unsigned transparent_aggr_flag : 1;
>>>    unsigned restrict_flag : 1;
>>> +  unsigned typeless_storage_flag : 1;
>>>    unsigned contains_placeholder_bits : 2;
>>>
>>>    ENUM_BITFIELD(machine_mode) mode : 8;
>>>
>>> bits are grouped in groups of 8 bits, this breaks it.
>>>
>>
>> Oh..., does this explain the problems that I had with this version???
>
> No, just "cosmetics".
>
>>> @@ -8041,7 +8041,8 @@ build_pointer_type_for_mode (tree to_type, machine
>>>
>>>    /* If the pointed-to type has the may_alias attribute set, force
>>>       a TYPE_REF_CAN_ALIAS_ALL pointer to be generated.  */
>>> -  if (lookup_attribute ("may_alias", TYPE_ATTRIBUTES (to_type)))
>>> +  if (TYPE_TYPELESS_STORAGE (to_type)
>>> +      || lookup_attribute ("may_alias", TYPE_ATTRIBUTES (to_type)))
>>>      can_alias_all = true;
>>>
>>>    /* In some cases, languages will have things that aren't a POINTER_TYPE
>>> @@ -8110,7 +8111,8 @@ build_reference_type_for_mode (tree to_type, machi
>>>
>>>    /* If the pointed-to type has the may_alias attribute set, force
>>>       a TYPE_REF_CAN_ALIAS_ALL pointer to be generated.  */
>>> -  if (lookup_attribute ("may_alias", TYPE_ATTRIBUTES (to_type)))
>>> +  if (TYPE_TYPELESS_STORAGE (to_type)
>>> +      || lookup_attribute ("may_alias", TYPE_ATTRIBUTES (to_type)))
>>>      can_alias_all = true;
>>>
>>>    /* In some cases, languages will have things that aren't a
>>>
>>> not needed.
>>>
>>
>> You mean, because the get_alias_set (to_type) will be 0 anyways,
>> and can_alias_all wont change the semantic?
>
> Well, typeless_storage and may_alias are something different.  If
> you require the above then your implementation of typeless_storage
> is broken.
>

You are right, the hunk above is actually unnecessary.

> Richard.
>
>>
>> Bernd.
>>
>>> +/* Nonzero if the type should behave like a character type
>>> +   with respect to aliasing sementics.  */
>>> +#define TYPE_TYPELESS_STORAGE(NODE) \
>>> +  (TYPE_CHECK (NODE)->type_common.typeless_storage_flag)
>>>
>>> ARRAY_TYPE_CHECK (NODE)->
>>>
>>> Richard.
>>>
>>
>>
>

  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-07 13:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-05  9:46 Bernd Edlinger
2017-04-05 13:28 ` Jakub Jelinek
2017-04-05 15:20   ` Richard Biener
2017-04-05 17:41     ` Bernd Edlinger
2017-04-05 20:18       ` Jason Merrill
2017-04-05 20:46         ` Bernd Edlinger
2017-04-05 22:54           ` Pedro Alves
2017-04-06 10:08           ` Jonathan Wakely
2017-04-06  7:23         ` Richard Biener
2017-04-05 15:27   ` Bernd Edlinger
2017-04-05 15:29     ` Jakub Jelinek
2017-04-05 14:50 ` Florian Weimer
2017-04-05 15:23   ` Richard Biener
2017-04-05 15:38     ` Bernd Edlinger
2017-04-05 16:03       ` Jonathan Wakely
2017-04-05 16:08         ` Jakub Jelinek
2017-04-05 17:23           ` Bernd Edlinger
2017-04-05 21:02             ` Bernd Edlinger
2017-04-05 23:17               ` Sandra Loosemore
2017-04-06  5:40                 ` Jakub Jelinek
2017-04-06  7:47               ` Richard Biener
2017-04-06  7:51                 ` Jakub Jelinek
2017-04-06  7:55                   ` Richard Biener
2017-04-06 14:11                     ` Bernd Edlinger
2017-04-06 14:17                       ` Florian Weimer
2017-04-06 14:23                         ` Richard Biener
2017-04-06 14:43                           ` Jonathan Wakely
2017-04-06 14:51                             ` Florian Weimer
2017-04-06 15:05                               ` Jakub Jelinek
2017-04-06 15:10                                 ` Florian Weimer
2017-04-06 19:13                               ` Richard Biener
2017-04-11 10:43                                 ` Florian Weimer
2017-04-11 10:48                                   ` Richard Biener
2017-04-06 17:39                         ` Bernd Edlinger
2017-04-06 17:48                           ` Florian Weimer
2017-04-06 18:12                             ` Bernd Edlinger
2017-04-06 18:19                               ` Florian Weimer
2017-04-06 18:49                                 ` Bernd Edlinger
2017-04-06 19:05                                   ` Florian Weimer
2017-04-06 19:20                                     ` Bernd Edlinger
2017-04-07  6:47                                       ` Richard Biener
2017-04-07 12:58                                         ` Bernd Edlinger
2017-04-06 19:16                               ` Richard Biener
2017-04-07  6:56                                 ` Florian Weimer
2017-04-07  8:01                                   ` Richard Biener
2017-04-06 19:14                           ` Richard Biener
2017-04-06 19:51                             ` Bernd Edlinger
2017-04-06 14:22                       ` Richard Biener
2017-04-06 21:00                 ` Bernd Edlinger
2017-04-07  6:54                   ` Richard Biener
2017-04-07 13:37                     ` Bernd Edlinger [this message]
2017-04-07 15:10                       ` Richard Biener
2017-04-07 15:33                         ` Bernd Edlinger
2017-04-07 20:22                           ` Jason Merrill
2017-04-10 12:50                             ` Richard Biener
2017-04-10 14:41                               ` Jason Merrill
2017-04-10 15:31                                 ` Richard Biener
2017-04-10 16:35                                   ` Jason Merrill
2017-04-11 10:32                                     ` Richard Biener
2017-04-11 11:53                                       ` Richard Biener
2017-04-11 13:35                                         ` Richard Biener
2017-04-11 18:47                                           ` Jason Merrill
2017-04-10 21:40                               ` Pedro Alves
2017-04-11  7:37                                 ` Richard Biener
2017-04-06 20:20               ` Bernd Edlinger

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