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From: Feng Xue OS <fxue@os.amperecomputing.com>
To: Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com>,
	"gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org"	<gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>
Cc: Jeff Law <law@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Remove empty loop with assumed finiteness (PR tree-optimization/89713)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 08:27:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BYAPR01MB4869EB9B493225AF4CAFEAD1F7060@BYAPR01MB4869.prod.exchangelabs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFiYyc3KPF-R-mNSFPt9_0WXTCR-ZoqkjTTq04==SDDu9WF_xw@mail.gmail.com>


>>
>> IIUC that was slightly different: "This option tells the loop optimizer to
>> assume that loop indices do not overflow, and that loops with nontrivial
>> exit condition are not infinite."
>>
>> The assumption on indices looks unsafe indeed if it applied to unsigned
>> indices in non-empty loops.

> The question is of couse what a "nontrivial exit condition" is.  Indeed
> the general handling of unsigned wrapping was what made the option
> useless in practice.

> But we thoroughly need to specify "nontrivial exit condition", if going
> as far as non-constant exit condition, that is, only do {} while (1) is required
> to be detected as infinite then this breaks down to unsigned wrapping IVs
> not be infinite.  Otherwise it requires the compiler to be able to correctly
> analyze all unsigned IVs which I know we do not at the moment (SCEV
> has limits).

> So - any suggestion as to how define "nontrivial exit condition"?

>>
>> Why exactly are we trying so hard to preserve no-side-effect, infinite
>> loops? What are they good for? Note that reading an atomic or volatile
>> variable counts as a side effect for this purpose. It looks like some kind
>> of busy waiting, but without checking a flag, so it can only be stopped by
>> some external action (say a signal), so if the OS has any notion of sleep
>> for a thread, blocking would be better. Or maybe it is running through a
>> circular list, ensuring that it stays in RAM? Anyway it seems specific
>> enough that that strange code should be the one needing an annotation.

> I guess we preserve them because we have to?

> I suppose we could add a flag that allows us to elide
> loops with no side-effect and non-constant exit condition
> (so only preserve do{}while (1))?

> Not sure where that would fit best though - certainly not
> in niter / IV analysis but in CD-DCE then?

Now finiteness assertion is only used in a very late CD-DCE, which is located after all loop optimizations are done. And we can even place it as late as just before RTL-expansion. This might be safe enough to let hidden infinite loops exposed.

Moreover, in CD-DCE, if a loop contains side-effect statements, w/o finiteness assertion does not trigger loop removal.

Feng

  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-20  8:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-17  4:17 Feng Xue OS
2019-05-17 16:47 ` Jeff Law
2019-05-17 18:50   ` Richard Biener
2019-05-18 14:00     ` Marc Glisse
2019-05-20  7:50       ` Richard Biener
2019-05-20  8:27         ` Feng Xue OS [this message]
2019-05-20  9:19           ` Richard Biener
2019-05-20  9:48             ` Feng Xue OS
2019-05-20 11:54               ` Richard Biener
2019-05-20 14:00                 ` Feng Xue OS
2019-05-20 14:04                   ` Richard Biener
2019-05-20 14:51                     ` Feng Xue OS
2019-05-21 10:12                       ` Richard Biener
2019-05-21 14:24                         ` Richard Biener
2019-05-22 13:44                           ` Michael Matz
2019-05-24 16:02                             ` [PATCH V3] " Feng Xue OS
2019-05-24  9:15                           ` [PATCH V2] " Feng Xue OS
2019-05-29 11:16                             ` Richard Biener
2019-06-04  6:49                               ` [PATCH V4] " Feng Xue OS
2019-06-04  8:24                                 ` Marc Glisse
2019-06-04 15:16                                   ` [PATCH V5] " Feng Xue OS
2019-06-04 15:24                                     ` [PATCH V6] " Feng Xue OS
2019-06-05 11:05                                       ` Richard Biener
2019-06-06 10:00                                         ` [PATCH V7] " Feng Xue OS
2019-06-11  2:40                                           ` [PATCH V8] " Feng Xue OS
2019-06-12  9:43                                             ` Richard Biener
2019-06-15 12:05                                               ` [committed][nvptx, libgomp] Update pr85381-{2,4}.c test-cases Tom de Vries
2019-05-20 13:04         ` [PATCH] Remove empty loop with assumed finiteness (PR tree-optimization/89713) Marc Glisse
2019-05-20 13:26           ` Richard Biener
2019-05-20 14:49             ` Michael Matz
2019-05-21  8:06               ` Marc Glisse
2020-04-01 13:36 ` [PATCH][RFC] c/94392 - only enable -ffinite-loops for C++ Richard Biener
2020-04-01 13:47   ` Jakub Jelinek
2020-04-01 13:52     ` Richard Biener
2020-04-01 15:56       ` Jan Hubicka
2020-04-01 16:59         ` Richard Biener
2020-04-01 19:15   ` Jason Merrill
2020-04-02  9:12     ` Richard Biener
2020-04-02  9:17       ` Jakub Jelinek
2020-04-02  9:41         ` Richard Biener
2020-04-03  8:29       ` Revert "[nvptx, libgomp] Update pr85381-{2, 4}.c test-cases" [PR89713, PR94392] (was: [PATCH][RFC] c/94392 - only enable -ffinite-loops for C++) Thomas Schwinge
2020-04-03  9:36         ` Revert "[nvptx, libgomp] Update pr85381-{2,4}.c " Richard Biener
2020-04-03 10:34           ` Jakub Jelinek
2020-10-30 14:09           ` Revert "[nvptx, libgomp] Update pr85381-{2, 4}.c " Thomas Schwinge
2020-10-30 14:16             ` Revert "[nvptx, libgomp] Update pr85381-{2,4}.c " Jakub Jelinek

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