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From: Philipp Tomsich <philipp.tomsich@vrull.eu>
To: Jeff Law <jeffreyalaw@gmail.com>
Cc: Tsukasa OI <research_trasio@irq.a4lg.com>,
	Kito Cheng <kito.cheng@gmail.com>,
	 Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	Andrew Waterman <andrew@sifive.com>,
	 Jim Wilson <jim.wilson.gcc@gmail.com>,
	gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/2] RISC-V: __builtin_riscv_pause for all environment
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2023 21:52:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAeLtUDEYEpJpJfb=TtBaw4k6Y2eFNvb73k8mSFgCRy-Re+qCg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e775ecef-4418-eabd-ecee-f0a53dda2dd8@gmail.com>

On Sat, 12 Aug 2023 at 01:31, Jeff Law via Gcc-patches
<gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 8/9/23 16:39, Tsukasa OI wrote:
> > On 2023/08/10 5:05, Jeff Law wrote:
>
> >> I'd tend to think we do not want to expose the intrinsic unless the
> >> right extensions are enabled -- even though the encoding is a no-op and
> >> we could emit it as a .insn.
> >
> > I think that makes sense.  The only reason I implemented the
> > no-'Zihintpause' version is because GCC 13 implemented the built-in
> > unconditionally.  If the compatibility breakage is considered minimum (I
> > don't know, though), I'm ready to submit 'Zihintpause'-only version of
> > this patch set.
> While it's a compatibility break I don't think we have a need to
> preserve this kind of compatibility.  I suspect anyone using
> __builtin_riscv_pause was probably already turning on Zihintpause and if
> they weren't they should have been :-0
>
>
> I'm sure we'll kick this around in the Tuesday meeting and hopefully
> make a decision about the desired direction.  You're obviously welcome
> to join if you're inclined.  Let me know if you need an invite.

The original discussion (and I believe that Andrew was the decisive
voice in the end) came to the conclusion that—given that pause is a
true hint—it could always be enabled.
We had originally expected to enable it only if Zihintpause was part
of the target architecture, but viewing it as "just a name for an
already existing pure hint" also made sense.
Note that on systems that don't implement Zihintpause, the hint is
guarantueed to not have an architectural effect.

That said, I don't really have a strong leaning one way or another.
Philipp.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-08-13 19:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-09  6:11 Tsukasa OI
2023-08-09  6:11 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] " Tsukasa OI
2023-08-28 21:12   ` Jeff Law
2023-08-29  2:02     ` Tsukasa OI
2023-08-09  6:11 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] RISC-V: Fix documentation of __builtin_riscv_pause Tsukasa OI
2023-08-28 21:14   ` Jeff Law
2023-08-28 23:09     ` Hans-Peter Nilsson
2023-08-28 23:15       ` Jeff Law
2023-08-29  2:15       ` Tsukasa OI
2023-08-29  9:26         ` Hans-Peter Nilsson
2023-08-09 20:05 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] RISC-V: __builtin_riscv_pause for all environment Jeff Law
2023-08-09 22:39   ` Tsukasa OI
2023-08-11 23:30     ` Jeff Law
2023-08-11 23:34       ` Palmer Dabbelt
2023-08-12  0:20       ` Tsukasa OI
2023-08-15 13:49         ` Jeff Law
2023-08-13 19:52       ` Philipp Tomsich [this message]
2023-08-13 20:17         ` Andrew Waterman
2023-08-15 13:52         ` Jeff Law
2023-08-10  2:25 ` [RFC PATCH v2 " Tsukasa OI
2023-08-10  2:25   ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/2] " Tsukasa OI
2023-08-16  1:26     ` Jeff Law
2023-08-16  8:33       ` Philipp Tomsich
2023-08-21 14:02         ` Jeff Law
2023-08-10  2:25   ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/2] RISC-V: Fix documentation of __builtin_riscv_pause Tsukasa OI
2023-08-10  2:26 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] RISC-V: Make __builtin_riscv_pause 'Zihintpause' only Tsukasa OI
2023-08-10  2:26   ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] " Tsukasa OI
2023-08-10  2:26   ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] RISC-V: Fix documentation of __builtin_riscv_pause Tsukasa OI

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