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From: Prathamesh Kulkarni <prathamesh.kulkarni@linaro.org>
To: Prathamesh Kulkarni <prathamesh.kulkarni@linaro.org>,
	gcc Patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>,
	 Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com>,
	richard.sandiford@arm.com
Subject: Re: Extend fold_vec_perm to fold VEC_PERM_EXPR in VLA manner
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2022 01:03:59 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAgBjMkVmDfGu0_5DCFfhmNsDQB45JASJyQahpo3Z=jKVCyRpQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mptleqaxele.fsf@arm.com>

On Fri, 23 Sept 2022 at 21:33, Richard Sandiford
<richard.sandiford@arm.com> wrote:
>
> Prathamesh Kulkarni <prathamesh.kulkarni@linaro.org> writes:
> > On Tue, 20 Sept 2022 at 18:09, Richard Sandiford
> > <richard.sandiford@arm.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Prathamesh Kulkarni <prathamesh.kulkarni@linaro.org> writes:
> >> > On Mon, 12 Sept 2022 at 19:57, Richard Sandiford
> >> > <richard.sandiford@arm.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Prathamesh Kulkarni <prathamesh.kulkarni@linaro.org> writes:
> >> >> >> The VLA encoding encodes the first N patterns explicitly.  The
> >> >> >> npatterns/nelts_per_pattern values then describe how to extend that
> >> >> >> initial sequence to an arbitrary number of elements.  So when performing
> >> >> >> an operation on (potentially) variable-length vectors, the questions is:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> * Can we work out an initial sequence and npatterns/nelts_per_pattern
> >> >> >>   pair that will be correct for all elements of the result?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> This depends on the operation that we're performing.  E.g. it's
> >> >> >> different for unary operations (vector_builder::new_unary_operation)
> >> >> >> and binary operations (vector_builder::new_binary_operations).  It also
> >> >> >> varies between unary operations and between binary operations, hence
> >> >> >> the allow_stepped_p parameters.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> For VEC_PERM_EXPR, I think the key requirement is that:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> (R) Each individual selector pattern must always select from the same vector.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Whether this condition is met depends both on the pattern itself and on
> >> >> >> the number of patterns that it's combined with.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> E.g. suppose we had the selector pattern:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>   { 0, 1, 4, ... }   i.e. 3x - 2 for x > 0
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> If the arguments and selector are n elements then this pattern on its
> >> >> >> own would select from more than one argument if 3(n-1) - 2 >= n.
> >> >> >> This is clearly true for large enough n.  So if n is variable then
> >> >> >> we cannot represent this.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> If the pattern above is one of two patterns, so interleaved as:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>      { 0, _, 1, _, 4, _, ... }  o=0
> >> >> >>   or { _, 0, _, 1, _, 4, ... }  o=1
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> then the pattern would select from more than one argument if
> >> >> >> 3(n/2-1) - 2 + o >= n.  This too would be a problem for variable n.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> But if the pattern above is one of four patterns then it selects
> >> >> >> from more than one argument if 3(n/4-1) - 2 + o >= n.  This is not
> >> >> >> true for any valid n or o, so the pattern is OK.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> So let's define some ad hoc terminology:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> * Px is the number of patterns in x
> >> >> >> * Ex is the number of elements per pattern in x
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> where x can be:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> * 1: first argument
> >> >> >> * 2: second argument
> >> >> >> * s: selector
> >> >> >> * r: result
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Then:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> (1) The number of elements encoded explicitly for x is Ex*Px
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> (2) The explicit encoding can be used to produce a sequence of N*Ex*Px
> >> >> >>     elements for any integer N.  This extended sequence can be reencoded
> >> >> >>     as having N*Px patterns, with Ex staying the same.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> (3) If Ex < 3, Ex can be increased by 1 by repeating the final Px elements
> >> >> >>     of the explicit encoding.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> So let's assume (optimistically) that we can produce the result
> >> >> >> by calculating the first Pr*Er elements and using the Pr,Er encoding
> >> >> >> to imply the rest.  Then:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> * (2) means that, when combining multiple input operands with potentially
> >> >> >>   different encodings, we can set the number of patterns in the result
> >> >> >>   to the least common multiple of the number of patterns in the inputs.
> >> >> >>   In this case:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>   Pr = least_common_multiple(P1, P2, Ps)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>   is a valid number of patterns.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> * (3) means that the number of elements per pattern of the result can
> >> >> >>   be the maximum of the number of elements per pattern in the inputs.
> >> >> >>   (Alternatively, we could always use 3.)  In this case:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>   Er = max(E1, E2, Es)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>   is a valid number of elements per pattern.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> So if (R) holds we can compute the result -- for both VLA and VLS -- by
> >> >> >> calculating the first Pr*Er elements of the result and using the
> >> >> >> encoding to derive the rest.  If (R) doesn't hold then we need the
> >> >> >> selector to be constant-length.  We should then fill in the result
> >> >> >> based on:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> - Pr == number of elements in the result
> >> >> >> - Er == 1
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> But this should be the fallback option, even for VLS.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> As far as the arguments go: we should reject CONSTRUCTORs for
> >> >> >> variable-length types.  After doing that, we can treat a CONSTRUCTOR
> >> >> >> for an N-element vector type by setting the number of patterns to N
> >> >> >> and the number of elements per pattern to 1.
> >> >> > Hi Richard,
> >> >> > Thanks for the suggestions, and sorry for late response.
> >> >> > I have a couple of very elementary questions:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 1: Consider following inputs to VEC_PERM_EXPR:
> >> >> > op1: P_op1 == 4, E_op1 == 1
> >> >> > {1, 2, 3, 4, ...}
> >> >> >
> >> >> > op2: P_op2 == 2, E_op2 == 2
> >> >> > {11, 21, 12, 22, ...}
> >> >> >
> >> >> > sel: P_sel == 3, E_sel == 1
> >> >> > {0, 4, 5, ...}
> >> >> >
> >> >> > What shall be the result in this case ?
> >> >> > P_res = lcm(4, 2, 3) == 12
> >> >> > E_res = max(1, 2, 1) == 2.
> >> >>
> >> >> Yeah, that looks right.  Of course, since sel is just repeating
> >> >> every three elements, it could just be P_res==3, E_sel==1,
> >> >> but the vector_builder would do that optimisation for us.
> >> >>
> >> >> (I'm not sure whether we'd see a P==3 encoding in practice,
> >> >> but perhaps it's possible.)
> >> >>
> >> >> If sel was P_sel==1, E_sel==3 (so a stepped encoding rather than
> >> >> repeating every three elements) then:
> >> >>
> >> >> P_res = lcm(4, 2) == 4
> >> >> E_res = max(1, 2, 3) == 3
> >> >>
> >> >> which also looks like it would give the right encoding.
> >> >>
> >> >> > 2. How should we specify index of element in sel when it is not
> >> >> > explicitly encoded in the operand ?
> >> >> > For eg:
> >> >> > op1: npatterns == 2, nelts_per_pattern == 3
> >> >> > { 1, 0, 2, 0, 3, 0, ... }
> >> >> > op2: npatterns == 6, nelts_per_pattern == 1
> >> >> > { 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, ...}
> >> >> >
> >> >> > In sel, how do we refer to element with value 4, that would be 4th element
> >> >> > of first pattern in op1, but not explicitly encoded ?
> >> >> > In op1, 4 will come at index == 6.
> >> >> > However in sel, index 6 would refer to 11, ie op2[0] ?
> >> >>
> >> >> What index 6 refers to depends on the length of op1.
> >> >> If the length of op1 is 4 at runtime the index 6 refers to op2[2].
> >> >> If the length of op1 is 6 then index 6 refers to op2[0].
> >> >> If the length of op1 is 8 then index 6 refers to op1[6], etc.
> >> >>
> >> >> This comes back to (R) above.  We need to be able to prove at compile
> >> >> time that each pattern selects from the same input vectors (for all
> >> >> elements, not just the encoded elements).  If we can't prove that
> >> >> then we can't fold for variable-length vectors.
> >> > Hi Richard,
> >> > Thanks for the clarification!
> >> > I have come up with an approach to verify R:
> >> >
> >> > Consider following pattern:
> >> > a0, a1, a1 + S, ...,
> >> > nelts_per_pattern would be n / Psel, where n == actual length of the vector.
> >> > And last element of pattern will be given by:
> >> > a1 + (n/Psel - 2) * S
> >>
> >> (I think this is just a terminology thing, but in the source,
> >> nelts_per_pattern is a compile-time constant that describes the
> >> encoding.  It always has the value 1, 2 or 3, regardless of the
> >> runtime length.)
> >>
> >> > Rearranging the above term, we can think of pattern
> >> > as a line with following equation:
> >> > y = (S/Psel) * n + (a1 - 2S)
> >> > where (S/Psel) is the slope, and (a1 - 2S) is the y-intercept.
> >> >
> >> > At,
> >> > n = 2*Psel, y = a1
> >> > n = 3*Psel, y = a1 + S,
> >> > n = 4*Psel, y = a1 + 2S ...
> >> >
> >> > To compare with n, we compare the following lines:
> >> > y1 = (S/Psel) * n + (a1 - 2S)
> >> > y2 = n
> >> >
> >> > So to check if elements always come from first vector,
> >> > we want to check y1 < y2 for n > 0.
> >> > Likewise, if elements always come from second vector,
> >> > we want to check if y1 >= y2, for n > 0.
> >>
> >> One difficulty here is that the indices wrap around, so an index value of
> >> 2n selects from the first vector rather than the second.  (This is pretty
> >> awkward for VLA and doesn't match the native SVE TBL behaviour.)  So...
> >>
> >> > If both lines are parallel, ie S/PSel == 1,
> >> > then we choose first or second vector depending on the y-intercept a1 - 2S.
> >> > If a1 - 2S >= 0, then y1 >= y2 for all values of n, so select second vector.
> >> > If a1 - 2S < 0, then y1 < y2 for all values of n, so select first vector.
> >> >
> >> > For eg, if we have following pattern:
> >> > {0, 1, 3, ...}
> >> > where a1 = 1, S = 2, and consider PSel = 2.
> >> >
> >> > y1 = n - 3
> >> > y2 = n
> >> >
> >> > In this case, y1 < y2 for all values of n,  so we select first vector.
> >> >
> >> > Since y2 = n, passes thru origin with slope = 1,
> >> > a line can intersect it either in 1st or 3rd quadrant.
> >> > Calculate point of intersection:
> >> > n_int = Psel * (a1 - 2S) / (Psel - S);
> >> >
> >> > (a) n_int > 0
> >> > n_int > 0 => intersecting in 1st quadrant.
> >> > In this case there will be a cross-over at n_int.
> >> >
> >> > For eg, consider pattern { 0, 1, 4, ...}
> >> > a1 = 1, S = 3, and let's take PSel = 2
> >> >
> >> > y1 = (3/2)n - 5
> >> > y2 = n
> >> >
> >> > Both intersect at (10, 10).
> >> > So for n < 10, y1 < y2
> >> > and for n > 10, y1 > y2.
> >> > so in this case we can't fold since we will select elements from both vectors.
> >> >
> >> > (b) n_int <= 0
> >> > In this case, the lines will intersect in 3rd quadrant,
> >> > so depending upon the slope we can choose either vector.
> >> > If (S/Psel) < 1, ie y1 has a gentler slope than y2,
> >> > then y1 < y2 for n > 0
> >> > If (S/Psel) > 1, ie, y1 has a steeper slope than y2,
> >> > then y1 > y2 for n > 0.
> >> >
> >> > For eg, in the above pattern {0, 1, 4, ...}
> >> > a1 = 1, S = 3, and let's take PSel = 4
> >> >
> >> > y1 = (3/4)n - 5
> >> > y2 = n
> >> > Both intersect at (-20, -20).
> >> > y1's slope = (S/Psel) = (3/4) < 1
> >> > So y1 < y2 for n > 0.
> >> > Graph: https://www.desmos.com/calculator/ct7edqbr9d
> >> > So we pick first vector.
> >> >
> >> > The following pseudo code attempts to capture this:
> >> >
> >> > tree select_vector_for_pattern (op1, op2, a1, S, Psel)
> >> > {
> >> >   if (S == Psel)
> >> >     {
> >> >       /* If y1 intercept >= 0, then y1 >= y2
> >> >           for all values of n.  */
> >> >       if (a1 - 2*S >= 0)
> >> >         return op2;
> >> >       return op1;
> >> >     }
> >> >
> >> >    n_int = Psel * (a1 - 2*S) / (Psel - S)
> >> >    /* If intersecting in 1st quadrant, there will be cross over,
> >> >        bail out.  */
> >> >    if (n_int > 0)
> >> >      return NULL_TREE;
> >> >    /* If S/Psel < 1, ie y1 has gentler slope than y2,
> >> >       then y1 < y2 for n > 0.  */
> >> >    if (S < Psel)
> >> >      return op1;
> >> >    /* If S/Psel > 1, ie y1 has steeper slope than y2,
> >> >       then y1 > y2 for n > 0.  */
> >> >    return op2;
> >> > }
> >> >
> >> > Does this look reasonable ?
> >>
> >> ...I think we need to be more conservative.  I think we also need to
> >> distinguish n1 (the number of elements in the input vectors) and
> >> nsel (the number of elements in the selector).
> >>
> >> If nsel is a multiple of Psel and nsel >= 2 * Psel then like you say
> >> there will be (nsel /exact Psel) - 1 index elements from the stepped
> >> encoding and the final index value will be:
> >>
> >>   ae = a1 + (nsel /exact Psel - 2) * S
> >>
> >> Because of wrap-around, we need to ensure that that doesn't run
> >> into an adjoining vector.  I think the easiest way of doing that
> >> is to calculate a1 /trunc n1 and ae /trunc n1 (using can_div_trunc_p)
> >> and check that the quotients are equal.
> > IIUC, If a1/n1 == ae/n1, then the sequence will choose from the same
> > vector since ae is last elem,
> > and the quotient can choose the vector because it will be either 0 or
> > 1 (since indices wrap around after 2n).
>
> Right.
>
> > Um, could you please elaborate a bit on how will can_div_trunc_p
> > calculate quotients, when n1 and nsel are unknown
> > at compile time ?
> >
> > To calculate the quotients for a hard coded pattern,
> > with a1 = 1, nsel = n1 = len(VNx4SI), S = 3, Psel = 4,
> > I tried the following:
> >
> >   poly_uint64 n1 = GET_MODE_NUNITS (VNx4SImode);
> >   poly_uint64 nsel = n1;
> >   poly_uint64 a1 = 1
> >   poly_uint64 Esel = exact_div (nsel / Psel);
>
> We can't use exact_div here.  We need to test that nsel is a multiple
> of Psel (e.g. using multiple_p).
>
> >   poly_uint64 ae = a1 + (Esel - 2) * S;
> >
> >   int q1, qe;
> >   poly_uint64 r1, re;
> >
> >   bool div1_p = can_div_trunc_p (a1, n1, &q1, &r1);
> >   bool dive_p = can_div_trunc_p (ae, n1, &qe, &re);
> >
> > Which gave strange values for qe and 0 for q1, with first call succeeding,
> > and second call returning false.
> > Am I calling it incorrectly ?
>
> No, that looks right.  I guess the issue is that ae < a1 for Psel == nsel
> and so for min(nsel) the index wraps around to the other input vector.
> IMO it's OK to punt on that.  We don't have interfaces for applying
> ranges to the indeterminates in a poly_int.
Hi Richard,
Thanks for the suggestions.
I tried the following to test for wrap around:

  poly_uint64 n1 = GET_MODE_NUNITS (VNx4SImode);
  poly_uint64 nsel = n1;
  poly_uint64 a1 = 1;
  unsigned Psel = 4;
  int S = 3;

  if (multiple_p (nsel, Psel))
    {
      poly_uint64 nelems = exact_div (nsel, Psel);
      poly_uint64 ae = a1 + (nelems - 2) * S;

      if (known_gt (ae, a1))
        {
          int q1, qe;
          poly_uint64 r1, re;

          bool ok1 = can_div_trunc_p (a1, n1, &q1, &r1);
          bool oke = can_div_trunc_p (ae, n1, &qe, &re);
        }
    }

However, the second call to can_div_trunc_p still returns false, with
strange values for qe.

Thanks,
Prathamesh

>
> I guess if we want to be fancy, we could look for a1 = a0 + S and,
> if true, do the calculation based on a0 rather than a1.  The combination
> of Psel >= min(nsel) and a0 != a1 + S, although valid in theory, should
> be a very niche case.
>
> But it might be better to stick to the a1-based case first and
> get that working.  We can then see whether it's worth extending.
>
> Thanks,
> Richard
>
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Prathamesh
> >
> >>
> >> However, I now realise that there's a wrinkle.  If S < 0 then we
> >> also need to check that either:
> >>
> >> (a) the chosen input vector (given by the quotient above) has either:
> >>
> >>     (i) nelts_per_pattern == 1
> >>     (ii) nelts_per_pattern == 3 and the difference between the
> >>          first and second elements in each pattern is the same as
> >>          the difference between the second and third elements
> >>          (i.e. every pattern is a natural stepped one).
> >>
> >> (b) ae % n1 >= the number of patterns in the input vector.
> >>     (ae % n1 is calculated as a side-effect of can_div_trunc_p).
> >>
> >> Otherwise the index vector has the effect of moving the "foreground"
> >> from the front of the input vector to the end of the result vector.
> >>
> >> If nsel == Psel then the stepped part of the sequence doesn't matter.
> >> Thus, the same condition works whenever nsel is a multiple of Psel.
> >>
> >> If nsel is not a multiple of Psel then I think we should punt for now.
> >> There are some cases that we could handle when n1 == nsel, but "nsel
> >> is a multiple of Psel" will be the normal case.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Richard

  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-26 19:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-17 12:39 Prathamesh Kulkarni
2022-08-29  6:08 ` Prathamesh Kulkarni
2022-09-05  8:53   ` Prathamesh Kulkarni
2022-09-05 10:21 ` Richard Sandiford
2022-09-09 13:59   ` Prathamesh Kulkarni
2022-09-12 14:27     ` Richard Sandiford
2022-09-15 12:26       ` Prathamesh Kulkarni
2022-09-20 12:39         ` Richard Sandiford
2022-09-23 11:59           ` Prathamesh Kulkarni
2022-09-23 16:03             ` Richard Sandiford
2022-09-26 19:33               ` Prathamesh Kulkarni [this message]
2022-09-26 20:29                 ` Richard Sandiford
2022-09-30 14:41                   ` Prathamesh Kulkarni
2022-09-30 16:00                     ` Richard Sandiford
2022-09-30 16:08                       ` Richard Sandiford
2022-10-10 10:48                         ` Prathamesh Kulkarni
2022-10-17 10:32                           ` Prathamesh Kulkarni
2022-10-24  8:12                             ` Prathamesh Kulkarni
2022-10-26 15:37                           ` Richard Sandiford
2022-10-28 14:46                             ` Prathamesh Kulkarni
2022-10-31  9:57                               ` Richard Sandiford
2022-11-04  8:30                                 ` Prathamesh Kulkarni
2022-11-21  9:07                                   ` Prathamesh Kulkarni
2022-11-28 11:44                                     ` Prathamesh Kulkarni
2022-12-06 15:30                                     ` Richard Sandiford
2022-12-13  6:05                                       ` Prathamesh Kulkarni
2022-12-26  4:26                                         ` Prathamesh Kulkarni
2023-01-17 11:54                                           ` Prathamesh Kulkarni
2023-02-01 10:01                                             ` Prathamesh Kulkarni

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