From: Craig Topper <craig.topper@gmail.com>
To: Hongtao Liu <crazylht@gmail.com>
Cc: Joseph Myers <joseph@codesourcery.com>,
Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>,
llvm-dev <llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org>,
liuhongt <hongtao.liu@intel.com>,
"gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org" <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [llvm-dev] [PATCH 0/2] Initial support for AVX512FP16
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 08:32:28 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAF7ks-OmpmnR_w9vMWxXwW6SYwM8XTufShc9Y71uoEUexM0ijA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMZc-bxS2_OD+xpNBGHrhvTh_O=khK9UNcUWkncKUo-7X=_YBA@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 12:45 AM Hongtao Liu via llvm-dev <
llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org> wrote:
> > >
> > Set excess_precision_type to FLT_EVAL_METHOD_PROMOTE_TO_FLOAT16 to
> > round after each operation could keep semantics right.
> > And I'll document the behavior difference between soft-fp and
> > AVX512FP16 instruction for exceptions.
> I got some feedback from my colleague who's working on supporting
> _Float16 for llvm.
> The LLVM side wants to set FLT_EVAL_METHOD_PROMOTE_TO_FLOAT for
> soft-fp so that codes can be more efficient.
> i.e.
> _Float16 a, b, c, d;
> d = a + b + c;
>
> would be transformed to
> float tmp, tmp1, a1, b1, c1;
> a1 = (float) a;
> b1 = (float) b;
> c1 = (float) c;
> tmp = a1 + b1;
> tmp1 = tmp + c1;
> d = (_Float16) tmp;
>
> so there's only 1 truncation in the end.
>
> if users want to round back after every operation. codes should be
> explicitly written as
> _Float16 a, b, c, d, e;
> e = a + b;
> d = e + c;
>
> That's what Clang does, quote from [1]
> _Float16 arithmetic will be performed using native half-precision
> support when available on the target (e.g. on ARMv8.2a); otherwise it
> will be performed at a higher precision (currently always float) and
> then truncated down to _Float16. Note that C and C++ allow
> intermediate floating-point operands of an expression to be computed
> with greater precision than is expressible in their type, so Clang may
> avoid intermediate truncations in certain cases; this may lead to
> results that are inconsistent with native arithmetic.
>
Clang for AArch64 promotes each individual operation and rounds immediately
afterwards. https://godbolt.org/z/qzGfv6nvo note the fcvts between the two
fadd operations. It's implemented in the LLVM backend where we can't see
what was originally a single expression.
>
> and so does arm gcc
> quote from arm.c
>
> /* We can calculate either in 16-bit range and precision or
> 32-bit range and precision. Make that decision based on whether
> we have native support for the ARMv8.2-A 16-bit floating-point
> instructions or not. */
> return (TARGET_VFP_FP16INST
> ? FLT_EVAL_METHOD_PROMOTE_TO_FLOAT16
> : FLT_EVAL_METHOD_PROMOTE_TO_FLOAT);
>
>
> [1]https://clang.llvm.org/docs/LanguageExtensions.html
> > > --
> > > Joseph S. Myers
> > > joseph@codesourcery.com
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > BR,
> > Hongtao
>
>
>
> --
> BR,
> Hongtao
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[not found] <20210701054808.39000-1-hongtao.liu@intel.com>
2021-07-01 5:55 ` Hongtao Liu
2021-07-01 20:46 ` Joseph Myers
2021-07-06 8:53 ` Hongtao Liu
[not found] ` <20210701054808.39000-3-hongtao.liu@intel.com>
2021-07-01 5:55 ` [PATCH 2/2] AVX512FP16: Add HFmode support in libgcc Hongtao Liu
[not found] ` <20210701054808.39000-2-hongtao.liu@intel.com>
2021-07-01 5:55 ` [PATCH 1/2] AVX512FP16: Initial support for _Float16 type and AVX512FP16 feature Hongtao Liu
2021-07-01 11:10 ` [PATCH 0/2] Initial support for AVX512FP16 Uros Bizjak
2021-07-01 12:39 ` H.J. Lu
2021-07-01 12:58 ` Richard Biener
2021-07-01 13:03 ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-07-06 8:51 ` Hongtao Liu
2021-07-06 10:14 ` Richard Biener
2021-07-06 12:11 ` H.J. Lu
2021-07-06 18:20 ` Joseph Myers
2021-07-06 18:18 ` Joseph Myers
2021-07-06 18:11 ` Joseph Myers
2021-07-07 1:24 ` Hongtao Liu
2021-07-14 7:50 ` Hongtao Liu
2021-07-14 15:32 ` Craig Topper [this message]
2021-07-15 2:07 ` [llvm-dev] " Wang, Pengfei
2021-07-15 6:34 ` Hongtao Liu
2021-07-15 6:57 ` Wang, Pengfei
2021-07-15 7:49 ` Hongtao Liu
2021-07-21 7:43 ` [PATCH V2 00/10] " liuhongt
2021-07-21 7:43 ` [PATCH 01/10] Update hf soft-fp from glibc liuhongt
2021-07-21 7:43 ` [PATCH 02/10] [i386] Enable _Float16 type for TARGET_SSE2 and above liuhongt
2021-07-21 10:35 ` Uros Bizjak
2021-07-22 5:21 ` Hongtao Liu
2021-07-22 11:56 ` Richard Biener
2021-07-28 21:56 ` Joseph Myers
2021-07-29 4:53 ` Hongtao Liu
2021-07-29 5:34 ` Hongtao Liu
2021-07-29 21:30 ` Joseph Myers
2021-08-02 5:23 ` Hongtao Liu
2021-08-02 6:31 ` [PATCH V3 0/6] Initial support for AVX512FP16 liuhongt
2021-08-02 6:31 ` [PATCH 1/6] Update hf soft-fp from glibc liuhongt
2021-08-02 6:31 ` [PATCH 2/6] [i386] Enable _Float16 type for TARGET_SSE2 and above liuhongt
2021-08-04 2:45 ` Hongtao Liu
2021-08-04 11:28 ` Richard Biener
2021-08-05 7:31 ` Hongtao Liu
2021-08-05 7:39 ` Hongtao Liu
2021-08-05 9:24 ` Richard Biener
2021-08-05 9:49 ` Hongtao Liu
2021-08-05 10:14 ` Richard Biener
2021-08-06 3:32 ` [PATCH] Make sure we're playing with integral modes before call extract_integral_bit_field liuhongt
2021-08-06 3:44 ` Andrew Pinski
2021-08-06 4:59 ` Hongtao Liu
2021-08-06 5:52 ` Hongtao Liu
2021-08-06 6:59 ` Richard Biener
2021-08-06 6:57 ` Richard Biener
2021-08-06 9:05 ` Richard Sandiford
2021-08-06 11:27 ` Richard Biener
2021-08-09 8:34 ` Hongtao Liu
2021-08-17 1:52 ` Hongtao Liu
2021-08-24 9:40 ` Hongtao Liu
2021-08-24 9:44 ` Hongtao Liu
2021-08-24 11:38 ` Richard Biener
2021-08-26 1:17 ` Hongtao Liu
2021-08-25 23:16 ` Jeff Law
2021-08-26 2:05 ` Hongtao Liu
2021-08-26 7:11 ` Richard Biener
2021-08-26 9:06 ` Richard Sandiford
2021-08-26 10:14 ` Richard Biener
2021-08-26 10:50 ` Richard Sandiford
2021-08-26 11:09 ` Richard Biener
2021-08-27 4:56 ` Hongtao Liu
2021-08-30 19:09 ` Joseph Myers
2021-08-30 21:15 ` Jeff Law
2021-08-31 6:10 ` Richard Biener
2021-08-31 6:30 ` Hongtao Liu
2021-08-31 6:48 ` Hongtao Liu
2021-08-31 11:16 ` Richard Biener
2021-08-31 11:17 ` [PATCH 0/2] Get rid of all float-int special cases in validate_subreg liuhongt
2021-08-31 11:17 ` [PATCH 1/2] Revert "Make sure we're playing with integral modes before call extract_integral_bit_field." liuhongt
2021-08-31 11:17 ` [PATCH 2/2] Get rid of all float-int special cases in validate_subreg liuhongt
2021-08-31 11:57 ` Richard Biener
2021-09-02 17:55 ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-09-03 15:05 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-09-07 23:19 ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-09-08 0:55 ` Hongtao Liu
2021-09-03 12:42 ` [PATCH 2/6] [i386] Enable _Float16 type for TARGET_SSE2 and above Jakub Jelinek
2021-09-06 2:05 ` Hongtao Liu
2021-09-06 12:13 ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-09-07 1:52 ` Hongtao Liu
2021-09-07 7:17 ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-09-07 10:08 ` Hongtao Liu
2021-09-07 10:10 ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-08-02 6:31 ` [PATCH 3/6] [i386] libgcc: Enable hfmode soft-sf/df/xf/tf extensions and truncations liuhongt
2021-08-02 6:31 ` [PATCH 4/6] Support -fexcess-precision=16 which will enable FLT_EVAL_METHOD_PROMOTE_TO_FLOAT16 when backend supports _Float16 liuhongt
2021-08-02 19:34 ` Joseph Myers
2021-08-03 2:44 ` Hongtao Liu
2021-08-06 6:06 ` Hongtao Liu
2021-08-17 1:53 ` Hongtao Liu
2021-08-24 9:39 ` Hongtao Liu
2021-09-02 6:06 ` Hongtao Liu
2021-08-02 6:39 ` [PATCH 6/6] AVX512FP16: Support vector init/broadcast/set/extract for FP16 liuhongt
2021-08-02 6:44 ` [PATCH 5/6] AVX512FP16: Initial support for AVX512FP16 feature and scalar _Float16 instructions liuhongt
2021-08-04 2:40 ` Hongtao Liu
2021-08-04 9:55 ` Uros Bizjak
2021-09-02 6:06 ` [PATCH V3 0/6] Initial support for AVX512FP16 Hongtao Liu
2021-09-02 11:30 ` Iain Sandoe
2021-09-02 15:18 ` Hongtao Liu
2021-09-02 16:44 ` Iain Sandoe
2021-09-02 20:03 ` Joseph Myers
2021-09-03 7:51 ` Iain Sandoe
2021-09-03 15:33 ` Iain Sandoe
2021-09-21 20:11 ` Joseph Myers
2021-09-21 20:25 ` Iain Sandoe
2021-09-22 7:08 ` Iain Sandoe
2021-09-22 19:50 ` Joseph Myers
2021-09-02 15:30 ` H.J. Lu
2021-09-02 15:50 ` Hongtao Liu
2021-09-02 19:45 ` Joseph Myers
2021-07-21 7:43 ` [PATCH 03/10] [i386] libgcc: Enable hfmode soft-sf/df/xf/tf extensions and truncations liuhongt
2021-07-21 10:51 ` Uros Bizjak
2021-07-22 12:14 ` Richard Biener
2021-07-27 5:32 ` Hongtao Liu
2021-07-29 20:57 ` Joseph Myers
2021-08-02 5:10 ` Hongtao Liu
2021-07-21 7:43 ` [PATCH 04/10] AVX512FP16: Initial support for AVX512FP16 feature and scalar _Float16 instructions liuhongt
2021-07-22 8:49 ` Uros Bizjak
2021-07-27 7:31 ` Hongtao Liu
2021-07-21 7:43 ` [PATCH 05/10] AVX512FP16: Support vector init/broadcast/set/extract for FP16 liuhongt
2021-07-22 5:24 ` Hongtao Liu
2021-07-21 7:43 ` [PATCH 06/10] AVX512FP16: Add testcase for vector init and broadcast intrinsics liuhongt
2021-07-21 7:43 ` [PATCH 07/10] AVX512FP16: Add tests for vector passing in variable arguments liuhongt
2021-07-21 7:43 ` [PATCH 08/10] AVX512FP16: Add ABI tests for xmm liuhongt
2021-07-21 7:43 ` [PATCH 09/10] AVX512FP16: Add ABI test for ymm liuhongt
2021-07-21 7:43 ` [PATCH 10/10] AVX512FP16: Add abi test for zmm liuhongt
2021-09-08 2:54 ` [PATCH V2 00/10] Initial support for AVX512FP16 Hongtao Liu
2021-09-08 3:02 ` Hongtao Liu
2021-07-01 12:58 ` [PATCH 0/2] " Uros Bizjak
2021-07-01 21:40 ` Joseph Myers
2021-07-02 6:30 ` Hongtao Liu
2021-07-02 8:03 ` Uros Bizjak
2021-07-02 8:19 ` Richard Biener
2021-07-03 14:44 ` Hongtao Liu
2021-07-05 1:25 ` Hongtao Liu
2021-07-05 11:02 ` Richard Biener
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