From: Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com>
To: Qing Zhao <QING.ZHAO@oracle.com>
Cc: Richard Sandiford <richard.sandiford@arm.com>,
gcc Patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>,
kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: How to traverse all the local variables that declared in the current routine?
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 09:45:05 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFiYyc033-ZA4pHvQEEhDDyL3471HAxdoXELHRXeTJvydheRYw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3D01F6C7-2E67-4081-BD5F-4EDEC0227627@ORACLE.COM>
On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 4:36 PM Qing Zhao <QING.ZHAO@oracle.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Dec 2, 2020, at 2:45 AM, Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 8:49 PM Qing Zhao <QING.ZHAO@oracle.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi, Richard,
>
> Could you please comment on the following approach:
>
> Instead of adding the zero-initializer quite late at the pass “pass_expand”, we can add it as early as during gimplification.
> However, we will mark these new added zero-initializers as “artificial”. And passing this “artificial” information to
> “pass_early_warn_uninitialized” and “pass_late_warn_uninitialized”, in these two uninitialized variable analysis passes,
> (i.e., in tree-sea-uninit.c) We will update the checking on “ssa_undefined_value_p” to consider “artificial” zero-initializers.
> (i.e, if the def_stmt is marked with “artificial”, then it’s a undefined value).
>
> With such approach, we should be able to address all those conflicts.
>
> Do you see any obvious issue with this approach?
>
>
> Yes, DSE will happily elide an explicit zero-init following the
> artificial one leading to false uninit diagnostics.
>
>
> Indeed. This is a big issue. And other optimizations might also be impacted by the new zero-init, resulting changed behavior
> of uninitialized analysis in the later stage.
I don't see how the issue can be resolved, you can't get both, uninit
warnings and no uninitialized memory.
People can compile twice, once without -fzero-init to get uninit
warnings and once with -fzero-init to get
the extra "security".
Richard.
>
> What's the intended purpose of the zero-init?
>
>
>
> The purpose of this new option is: (from the original LLVM patch submission):
>
> "Add an option to initialize automatic variables with either a pattern or with
> zeroes. The default is still that automatic variables are uninitialized. Also
> add attributes to request uninitialized on a per-variable basis, mainly to disable
> initialization of large stack arrays when deemed too expensive.
>
> This isn't meant to change the semantics of C and C++. Rather, it's meant to be
> a last-resort when programmers inadvertently have some undefined behavior in
> their code. This patch aims to make undefined behavior hurt less, which
> security-minded people will be very happy about. Notably, this means that
> there's no inadvertent information leak when:
>
> • The compiler re-uses stack slots, and a value is used uninitialized.
> • The compiler re-uses a register, and a value is used uninitialized.
> • Stack structs / arrays / unions with padding are copied.
> This patch only addresses stack and register information leaks. There's many
> more infoleaks that we could address, and much more undefined behavior that
> could be tamed. Let's keep this patch focused, and I'm happy to address related
> issues elsewhere."
>
> For more details, please refer to the LLVM code review discussion on this patch:
> https://reviews.llvm.org/D54604
>
>
> I also wrote a simple writeup for this task based on my study and discussion with
> Kees Cook (cc’ing him) as following:
>
>
> thanks.
>
> Qing
>
> Support stack variables auto-initialization in GCC
>
> 11/19/2020
>
> Qing Zhao
>
> =======================================================
>
>
> ** Background of the task:
>
> The correponding GCC bugzilla RFE was created on 9/3/2018:
> https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=87210
>
> A similar option for LLVM (around Nov, 2018)
> https://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/cfe-dev/2018-November/060172.html
> had invoked a lot of discussion before committed.
>
> (The following are quoted from the comments of Alexander Potapenko in
> GCC bug 87210):
>
> Finally, on Oct, 2019, upstream Clang supports force initialization
> of stack variables under the -ftrivial-auto-var-init flag.
>
> -ftrivial-auto-var-init=pattern initializes local variables with a 0xAA pattern
> (actually it's more complicated, see https://reviews.llvm.org/D54604)
>
> -ftrivial-auto-var-init=zero provides zero-initialization of locals.
> This mode isn't officially supported yet and is hidden behind an additional
> -enable-trivial-auto-var-init-zero-knowing-it-will-be-removed-from-clang flag.
> This is done to avoid creating a C++ dialect where all variables are
> zero-initialized.
>
> Starting v5.2, Linux kernel has a CONFIG_INIT_STACK_ALL config that performs
> the build with -ftrivial-auto-var-init=pattern. This one isn't widely adopted
> yet, partially because initializing locals with 0xAA isn't fast enough.
>
> Linus Torvalds is quite positive about zero-initializing the locals though,
> see https://lkml.org/lkml/2019/7/30/1303:
>
> "when a compiler has an option to initialize stack variables, it
> would probably _also_ be a very good idea for that compiler to then
> support a variable attribute that says "don't initialize _this_
> variable, I will do that manually".
> I also think that the "initialize with poison" is
> pointless and wrong. Yes, it can find bugs, but it doesn't really help
> improve the general situation, and people see it as a debugging tool,
> not a "improve code quality and improve the life of kernel developers"
> tool.
>
> So having a flag similar to -ftrivial-auto-var-init=zero in GCC will be
> appreciated by the Linux kernel community.
>
> currently, kernel is using a gcc plugin to support stack variables
> auto-initialization:
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/scripts/gcc-plugins/structleak_plugin.c
>
> ** Current situation:
>
> A. Both Microsoft compiler and CLANG (APPLE AND GOOGLE) support pattern init and
> zero init already;
> http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/cfe-dev/2020-April/065221.html
> https://msrc-blog.microsoft.com/2020/05/13/solving-uninitialized-stack-memory-on-windows/
> Pattern init is used in development build for debugging purpose, zero init is
> used in production build for security purpose.
>
> B. for CLANG, even though zero init is controlled by
> "-fenable-trivial-auto-var-init-zero-knowing-it-will-be-removed-from-clang",
> many end users have used it for production build.
> this functionality cannot be removed anymore.
> "-fenable-trivial-auto-var-init-zero-knowing-it-will-be-removed-from-clang"
> might be changed to more meaningful name later in CLANG.
>
>
> ** My proposal:
>
> A. add a new GCC option: (same name and meaning as CLANG)
> -ftrivial-auto-var-init=[pattern|zero], similar pattern init as CLANG;
>
> B. add a new attribute for variable:
> __attribute((uninitialized)
> the marked variable is uninitialized intentionaly for performance purpose.
>
> C. The implementation needs to keep the current static warning on uninitialized
> variables untouched in order to avoid "forking the language”.
>
>
>
> On Nov 25, 2020, at 3:11 AM, Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I am planing to add a new phase immediately after “pass_late_warn_uninitialized” to initialize all auto-variables that are
> not explicitly initialized in the declaration, the basic idea is following:
>
> ** The proposal:
>
> A. add a new GCC option: (same name and meaning as CLANG)
> -ftrivial-auto-var-init=[pattern|zero], similar pattern init as CLANG;
>
> B. add a new attribute for variable:
> __attribute((uninitialized)
> the marked variable is uninitialized intentionaly for performance purpose.
>
> C. The implementation needs to keep the current static warning on uninitialized
> variables untouched in order to avoid "forking the language".
>
>
> ** The implementation:
>
> There are two major requirements for the implementation:
>
> 1. all auto-variables that do not have an explicit initializer should be initialized to
> zero by this option. (Same behavior as CLANG)
>
> 2. keep the current static warning on uninitialized variables untouched.
>
> In order to satisfy 1, we should check whether an auto-variable has initializer
> or not;
> In order to satisfy 2, we should add this new transformation after
> "pass_late_warn_uninitialized".
>
> So, we should be able to check whether an auto-variable has initializer or not after “pass_late_warn_uninitialized”,
> If Not, then insert an initialization for it.
>
> For this purpose, I guess that “FOR_EACH_LOCAL_DECL” might be better?
>
>
> I think both as long as they are source-level auto-variables. Then which one is better?
>
>
> Another issue is, in order to check whether an auto-variable has initializer, I plan to add a new bit in “decl_common” as:
> /* In a VAR_DECL, this is DECL_IS_INITIALIZED. */
> unsigned decl_is_initialized :1;
>
> /* IN VAR_DECL, set when the decl is initialized at the declaration. */
> #define DECL_IS_INITIALIZED(NODE) \
> (DECL_COMMON_CHECK (NODE)->decl_common.decl_is_initialized)
>
> set this bit when setting DECL_INITIAL for the variables in FE. then keep it
> even though DECL_INITIAL might be NULLed.
>
>
> For locals it would be more reliable to set this flag-Wmaybe-uninitialized.
>
>
>
> You mean I can set the flag “DECL_IS_INITIALIZED (decl)” inside the routine “gimpley_decl_expr” (gimplify.c) as following:
>
> if (VAR_P (decl) && !DECL_EXTERNAL (decl))
> {
> tree init = DECL_INITIAL (decl);
> ...
> if (init && init != error_mark_node)
> {
> if (!TREE_STATIC (decl))
> {
> DECL_IS_INITIALIZED(decl) = 1;
> }
>
> Is this enough for all Frontends? Are there other places that I need to maintain this bit?
>
>
>
> Do you have any comment and suggestions?
>
>
> As said above - do you want to cover registers as well as locals?
>
>
> All the locals from the source-code point of view should be covered. (From my study so far, looks like that Clang adds that phase in FE).
> If GCC adds this phase in FE, then the following design requirement
>
> C. The implementation needs to keep the current static warning on uninitialized
> variables untouched in order to avoid "forking the language”.
>
> cannot be satisfied. Since gcc’s uninitialized variables analysis is applied quite late.
>
> So, we have to add this new phase after “pass_late_warn_uninitialized”.
>
> I'd do
> the actual zeroing during RTL expansion instead since otherwise you
> have to figure youself whether a local is actually used (see expand_stack_vars)
>
>
> Adding this new transformation during RTL expansion is okay. I will check on this in more details to see how to add it to RTL expansion phase.
>
>
> Note that optimization will already made have use of "uninitialized" state
> of locals so depending on what the actual goal is here "late" may be too late.
>
>
> This is a really good point…
>
> In order to avoid optimization to use the “uninitialized” state of locals, we should add the zeroing phase as early as possible (adding it in FE might be best
> for this issue). However, if we have to met the following requirement:
>
>
> So is optimization supposed to pick up zero or is it supposed to act
> as if the initializer
> is unknown?
>
> C. The implementation needs to keep the current static warning on uninitialized
> variables untouched in order to avoid "forking the language”.
>
> We have to move the new phase after all the uninitialized analysis is done in order to avoid “forking the language”.
>
> So, this is a problem that is not easy to resolve.
>
>
> Indeed, those are conflicting goals.
>
> Do you have suggestion on this?
>
>
> No, not any easy ones. Doing more of the uninit analysis early (there
> is already an early
> uninit pass) which would mean doing IPA analysis turing GCC into more
> of a static analysis
> tool. Theres the analyzer now, not sure if that can employ an early
> LTO phase for example.
>
>
>
>
> Richard.
>
>
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Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-11-23 23:05 Qing Zhao
2020-11-24 7:32 ` Richard Biener
2020-11-24 15:47 ` Qing Zhao
2020-11-24 15:55 ` Richard Biener
2020-11-24 16:54 ` Qing Zhao
2020-11-25 9:11 ` Richard Biener
2020-11-25 17:41 ` Qing Zhao
2020-12-01 19:47 ` Qing Zhao
2020-12-02 8:45 ` Richard Biener
2020-12-02 15:36 ` Qing Zhao
2020-12-03 8:45 ` Richard Biener [this message]
2020-12-03 16:07 ` Qing Zhao
2020-12-03 16:36 ` Richard Biener
2020-12-03 16:40 ` Qing Zhao
2020-12-03 16:56 ` Richard Sandiford
2020-11-26 0:08 ` Martin Sebor
2020-11-30 16:23 ` Qing Zhao
2020-11-30 17:18 ` Martin Sebor
2020-11-30 23:05 ` Qing Zhao
2020-12-03 17:32 ` Richard Sandiford
2020-12-03 23:04 ` Qing Zhao
2020-12-04 8:50 ` Richard Biener
2020-12-04 16:19 ` Qing Zhao
2020-12-07 7:12 ` Richard Biener
2020-12-07 16:20 ` Qing Zhao
2020-12-07 17:10 ` Richard Sandiford
2020-12-07 17:36 ` Qing Zhao
2020-12-07 18:05 ` Richard Sandiford
2020-12-07 18:34 ` Qing Zhao
2020-12-08 7:35 ` Richard Biener
2020-12-08 7:40 ` Richard Biener
2020-12-08 19:54 ` Qing Zhao
2020-12-09 8:23 ` Richard Biener
2020-12-09 15:04 ` Qing Zhao
2020-12-09 15:12 ` Richard Biener
2020-12-09 16:18 ` Qing Zhao
2021-01-05 19:05 ` The performance data for two different implementation of new security feature -ftrivial-auto-var-init Qing Zhao
2021-01-05 19:10 ` Qing Zhao
2021-01-12 20:34 ` Qing Zhao
2021-01-13 7:39 ` Richard Biener
2021-01-13 15:06 ` Qing Zhao
2021-01-13 15:10 ` Richard Biener
2021-01-13 15:35 ` Qing Zhao
2021-01-13 15:40 ` Richard Biener
2021-01-14 21:16 ` Qing Zhao
2021-01-15 8:11 ` Richard Biener
2021-01-15 16:16 ` Qing Zhao
2021-01-15 17:22 ` Richard Biener
2021-01-15 17:57 ` Qing Zhao
2021-01-18 13:09 ` Richard Sandiford
2021-01-18 16:12 ` Qing Zhao
2021-02-01 19:12 ` Qing Zhao
2021-02-02 7:43 ` Richard Biener
2021-02-02 15:17 ` Qing Zhao
2021-02-02 23:32 ` Qing Zhao
2020-12-07 17:21 ` How to traverse all the local variables that declared in the current routine? Richard Sandiford
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