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From: Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com>
To: Jeff Law <law@redhat.com>
Cc: Marc Glisse <marc.glisse@inria.fr>,
	GCC Patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: update address taken: don't drop clobbers
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 11:20:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFiYyc27PjA1A_DZnfWGzU2y10Lp3rEoZs1m7hknq1eJDOqK_Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <543E9BED.4070905@redhat.com>

On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Jeff Law <law@redhat.com> wrote:
> On 10/15/14 08:35, Marc Glisse wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Would that extra pass be acceptable?

Ugh, rather not.  We have too many passes ;)

>>> Otherwise, what do you think should be responsible for cleaning up the
>>> dead assignments?
>>
>>
>> Does anyone have an opinion on which side needs to be improved? As a
>> reminder:
>>
>> - we have a va_list with its address taken by va_start/va_end.
>> - fab lowers va_start/va_end and the list doesn't have its address taken
>> anymore.
>> - update_address_taken replaces the clobber: list =v {}; with an
>> assignment of an undefined value: list_6 = list_2(D);
>> - uninit warns about this.
>>
>> Some possible directions:
>> - "prematurely" optimize in update_address_taken so we don't generate
>> the useless assignment.
>> - add a dce pass before uninit.
>
> I tend to land on the side of minimizing false positives, so the comment
> about PR18501 is a "don't care" to me.  If the optimizers remove a dead
> assignment and we no longer warn about a potential uninitialized use in the
> dead assignment, then I consider that good.  Not everyone agrees with that
> way of thinking, obviously.
>
> So my inclination would be to evaluate independent of the pr18501 issues.
> ie, what's the compile-time cost vs runtime benefit of running DCE here.
> I'm guessing there's little runtime benefit for this particular case.
>
> So my next line of thinking would be can we arrange to conditionally run
> DCE?  ie, have update_address_taken signal that it did something that has a
> reasonable chance of exposing dead code and only run DCE in that case.
> Obviously this only helps if it rarely signals :-)  I don't think we have
> any infrastructure for this right now.
>
> Finally I'd look at how difficult it would be to have update_address_taken
> cleanup after itself.   If the LHS is in SSA form, then if we find it has no
> uses, can we just remove the assignment completely?

It doesn't even know that it has no uses (the variable still needs to be
written into SSA form).  OTOH it is a missed DSE opportunity before
update-address-taken?

As of premature optimization - into-SSA could notice it created SSA
names with no uses and trigger a fast DCE.

Btw, I wonder what this odd folding of variadic builtins is about, and why
it is not done in the stdarg pass (and only there), which would be earlier.

Richard.

> jeff

  reply	other threads:[~2014-10-16 11:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-28 22:33 Marc Glisse
2014-06-29 23:38 ` SRA: " Marc Glisse
2014-07-07  8:56   ` Richard Biener
2014-07-07  9:32     ` Marc Glisse
2014-07-07 18:32       ` Richard Biener
2014-07-07 20:15         ` Marc Glisse
2014-07-07 16:59     ` Jeff Law
2014-07-10 14:55   ` Richard Biener
2014-07-10 15:01     ` Jakub Jelinek
2014-06-30 19:31 ` update address taken: " Jeff Law
2014-07-06 14:24   ` Marc Glisse
2014-07-06 14:54     ` pinskia
2014-07-06 15:01       ` Marc Glisse
2014-07-07 10:21     ` Richard Biener
2014-07-07 17:20     ` Jeff Law
2014-07-08 13:31       ` Marc Glisse
2014-07-10 15:10 ` Richard Biener
2014-07-10 15:49   ` Michael Matz
2014-07-10 18:23     ` Jeff Law
2014-07-11  8:10       ` Richard Biener
2014-07-11  8:14         ` Richard Biener
2014-07-11 12:06       ` Michael Matz
2014-07-11 17:16         ` Jeff Law
2014-07-12  6:15   ` Marc Glisse
2014-07-24 13:06     ` Richard Biener
2014-07-27 11:53   ` Marc Glisse
2014-07-27 18:01   ` Marc Glisse
2014-09-07 15:28     ` Marc Glisse
2014-10-15 14:36       ` Marc Glisse
2014-10-15 16:12         ` Jeff Law
2014-10-16 11:20           ` Richard Biener [this message]
2014-10-16 14:11             ` Marc Glisse
2014-10-16 14:34               ` Richard Biener
2014-10-16 17:29               ` Jeff Law
2014-10-16 17:58                 ` Richard Biener
2014-10-16 18:37                   ` Jeff Law
2014-10-17 20:46                     ` Marc Glisse
2014-10-24 20:22                       ` Jeff Law
2014-10-25  8:06                         ` Marc Glisse
2014-10-31 21:06                           ` Jeff Law
2014-10-25 17:14                         ` Marc Glisse
2014-10-31 11:12                           ` Richard Biener
2014-11-02 10:34                             ` Marc Glisse
2014-11-03  9:06                               ` Richard Biener
2014-10-31 21:16                           ` Jeff Law
2014-10-16 17:23             ` Jeff Law
2014-10-18 22:23   ` Marc Glisse
2014-10-24 20:19     ` Jeff Law

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