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From: Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com>
To: Bernd Edlinger <bernd.edlinger@hotmail.de>
Cc: Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>,
	"gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org" <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>,
	Jeff Law <law@redhat.com>, 	Eric Botcazou <ebotcazou@adacore.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Sanitize rtx_addr_can_trap_p_1
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 10:57:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFiYyc2BhTi9McAW33wKFJLPVUbL9BPXcFXBrvWREQTVwt-xJw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DUB118-W5246A3EF392AF7BA008B57E4BC0@phx.gbl>

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Bernd Edlinger
<bernd.edlinger@hotmail.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 10:02:03, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
>>
>> IMHO the
>> #if 0
>> #endif
>> stuff doesn't belong to the patch.
>>
>
> I just wanted to leave a hint, how I debugged this function, and how
> to assess the performance of the decision that is taken here.
>
> I mean, the boot-strap would certainly pass, if I always return 0 here,
> but Eric would'nt like it.
>
> I believe that, when the offset lies within the bounds that are implied by
> the current function's stack frame, the access will always be safe.
>
> But there are some very rare false positives, when this function returns 0
> on "normal" code, like gcc source code itself, and they are interesting to debug.
>
> Should I better change the #if 0 block into a comment?

Yes.  If you have testcases for those rare false positives it would be nice to
reduce them and at least archieve them in bugzilla.

>
>> Other than that, as I said already in the PR, I'm in favor of applying it to
>> the trunk (only, not release branches) and watching for performance and/or
>> wrong-code issues, but Eric is against it. What do others think about it?
>>
>> From John Regehr's talk at GCC Summit a few years ago I got the
>> impression that for people to be able to effectively report bugs in the
>> compiler through code generator it is important that discovered bugs in the
>> compiler are fixed timely, otherwise it makes life to the reporters much
>> harder, because then they'll run into the same still unfixed issue all the
>> time.
>>
>
> On that, I totally agree.

I also think we need to be conservative.  I didn't look at the patch in detail
to check whether we are indeed conservative here (what about offsets
that are not visibly constant like for if (n > m) ... a[m];?).

Richard.

>
> Thanks
> Bernd.
>

  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-11 10:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-11  7:48 Bernd Edlinger
2015-06-11  8:40 ` Jakub Jelinek
2015-06-11 10:44   ` Bernd Edlinger
2015-06-11 10:57     ` Richard Biener [this message]
2015-06-11 16:04       ` Bernd Edlinger
2015-06-11 11:00     ` Jakub Jelinek
2015-06-11 14:38       ` Bernd Edlinger
2015-06-11 14:40         ` Richard Biener
2015-06-11 15:55           ` Bernd Edlinger
2015-06-11 11:29   ` Eric Botcazou
2015-06-11 11:57     ` Jakub Jelinek
2015-06-12  9:24     ` Bernd Edlinger
2015-06-15  9:03 ` Bernd Edlinger
2015-07-01 12:31   ` [PING] " Bernd Edlinger
2015-07-01 12:35     ` Jakub Jelinek

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